Dürheimer: GT1 Block to Be Retired
12-31-2010 | 07:35 PM
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No matter how we look at it; the legendary 'split crankcase' Metzger engine had won so many victories with the bloodline traced back to the 962, and few engines in the modern motorsports history could match its significance. If it ever goes out of production, it would just go into collectible status.
I myself am just glad to own one of the 'possibly last' Metzger engine 911's in my garage. This engine has so much soul that it stirs my heart everytime I start it up.
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I myself am just glad to own one of the 'possibly last' Metzger engine 911's in my garage. This engine has so much soul that it stirs my heart everytime I start it up.
Regards,
by some interesting conversations with "people in the know." The 997 will be the last to be powered by the MEZGER (Not Meztger) engine but that doesn't mean the 991's GTX engines won't be raced. By the time the 991 GTX's are released Porsche Motorsports will a few 24 hours
worth of testing under it's engine's proverbial belt.
12-31-2010 | 08:01 PM
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No matter how we look at it; the legendary 'split crankcase' Metzger engine had won so many victories with the bloodline traced back to the 962, and few engines in the modern motorsports history could match its significance. If it ever goes out of production, it would just go into collectible status.
I myself am just glad to own one of the 'possibly last' Metzger engine 911's in my garage. This engine has so much soul that it stirs my heart everytime I start it up.
Regards,
I myself am just glad to own one of the 'possibly last' Metzger engine 911's in my garage. This engine has so much soul that it stirs my heart everytime I start it up.
Regards,
12-31-2010 | 08:53 PM
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Agree! I am not usually a "keeper" of cars, but I am keeping this GT3. The lack of a Mezger engine and the much longer wheelbase losses it's 911 and GT3 soul for me. Sure, I will still buy another 911 (especially the non-GT ones to take advantage of the much larger rear seats), but this one is special and its definitely a keeper.
01-01-2011 | 01:04 PM
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Chris Harris now owns a Porsche 997 GT3...
"And after 2.5 years without owning a Porsche, I am now back in the land of Pork."
"Rear engined, 2 seats."
"It's a gen.1 GT3. Not a Clubsport, makes it cheaper. Might add half cage. Car will be subject to some 'mods'..."
"Best clarify that - it's a 997 gen 1 GT3, not a gen 1 996 GT3."
"It's actually a very comfort specced car, no buckets, PCM etc. But I like the colour - Meteor. Not lairy at all I'm afraid. Drives sweeeetly"
"When we start playing with it, it will become more of a weapon. Looking forward to a bit of a 'project'..."
"Don't want a full-track weapon. Fast road, occasional track, chassis to do both, more brakes, that kind of thing. No interest in more power."
"I like meteor. First 997 GT3 I ever drove on the launch was identical to the one I've bought. Liked it then, like it now!"
"For those who are interested, this is the 997 GT3"
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"Stealth Meteor Grey. Think in 4 years we'll look back at the 997 GT3 as a v.special car." [Chris Harris]
"Papers signed, here's the GT3!" [Chris Harris]
"For those of you wondering what it would have been like if the TG boys had actually nailed the GT3 and the Fez..."
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01-01-2011 | 01:10 PM
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It is interesting how the 997.2 GT3 is being compared to the 993 ~ the latter having a reputation with the Porsche faithful as being a classic or timeless design. My sense that the 997.2 GT3 will, in the next 10-15 years, enjoy the same reputation as the 993 does today. I think that all of us on the board that own these GT3's are fortunate to do so. Although I am not the type to "flip" cars often, these two will be "Not For Sale" until I am no longer able to drive them well and safely; a time that I hope is many years from now.
01-01-2011 | 07:56 PM
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It is interesting how the 997.2 GT3 is being compared to the 993 ~ the latter having a reputation with the Porsche faithful as being a classic or timeless design. My sense that the 997.2 GT3 will, in the next 10-15 years, enjoy the same reputation as the 993 does today. I think that all of us on the board that own these GT3's are fortunate to do so. Although I am not the type to "flip" cars often, these two will be "Not For Sale" until I am no longer able to drive them well and safely; a time that I hope is many years from now.
Circa 2004-2006, the 996 GT3 convinced die-hard 993 drivers (especially in hot rod 993 Turbos) to "get wet."
01-01-2011 | 10:40 PM
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I see no reason why the 9A1 engine cannot produce more power. as a ground-up design, nobody would accept limitations below those of the current GT3 RS.
I'm sure it can handle a greater displacement than the M997.70 engine. DFI has produced power increases in other engines, why not the 9A1. I'm convinced that PAG left "head-room".
The end of life special models don't surprise me at all. Things like the 993 Turbo S which I thought was a total rip off in 1997 have turned out to be collectors items. Why not empty the parts bins since those bits will be obsolete next year. The speedster is the most special case since it is truly a limited edition done by special wishes - expensive as hell but rare. Not sure I consider it "collectible" but that's just me.
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I'm sure it can handle a greater displacement than the M997.70 engine. DFI has produced power increases in other engines, why not the 9A1. I'm convinced that PAG left "head-room".
The end of life special models don't surprise me at all. Things like the 993 Turbo S which I thought was a total rip off in 1997 have turned out to be collectors items. Why not empty the parts bins since those bits will be obsolete next year. The speedster is the most special case since it is truly a limited edition done by special wishes - expensive as hell but rare. Not sure I consider it "collectible" but that's just me.
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01-02-2011 | 01:00 AM
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Personally I think the 996.2 is the sharpest car, but is it the fastest or best?
I think the .2 is better than the .1 997....
01-02-2011 | 01:54 PM
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^^ Like Trakcar posted I would believe that the .2s are equal to or even fractionally lighter than the .1s, right? As much as the steel cylinder liners add a bit of weight, the lack of a sunroof offsets that. Brakes and rear springs are lighter to name a few, wheels, even though CL maybe not, but certainly no heavier than those brick .1 wheels. Although the .2 may have a softer ride it is more planted and mostly softer over the harsh stuff; a good thing, imo. It should be (and is) softer than the .1 in normal mode. It did not feel as though there was enough of difference between normal and sport on the .1s.
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