Rs or not
#17
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The regular GT3 doesn't look that subtle anyway. Might as well go all the way and look the part.
I thought about this, too. The RS is a better proposition if you can pay the difference.
I thought about this, too. The RS is a better proposition if you can pay the difference.
#18
I've driven 2 different RS and my std GT3's turn in was sharper, it felt lighter, smaller and pulled harder. The torque down low on the std GT3 makes a HUGE difference. Needless to say, I still went with the RS. Just becuase. Oh well
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Couple of things. You can delete the decals on the RS (although accept this might be problematic on a car in stock). Have a look at some of the YouTube videos by Chris Harris of Evo Magazine (in the UK) on the RS (as well as the GT3). Wider track of the current 997.2 GT3 RS seems to have made a material difference to handling. Where he preferred the Gen 1 GT3 to the RS, he raves about the Gen 2 RS even over the Gen 2 GT3 (which is a fantastic car in itself). If only I did not need the rear seats.....
End of the day, you can't go wrong with either, just, if you want this as a keeper for the track, the Gen 2 RS may just be something that turns into an icon.... especially if the 991 GT3s/RSs ditch the metzger engines....
End of the day, you can't go wrong with either, just, if you want this as a keeper for the track, the Gen 2 RS may just be something that turns into an icon.... especially if the 991 GT3s/RSs ditch the metzger engines....
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OK, no flames from the RS crowd please, but I have to stand up and support the skinny-bodied gt3. I personally think the bigger wing, decals (which can be deleted), and color schemes on the RS are just too boy racer-ish compared to the standard gt3. My gt3 was optioned with more than most here would want -- lift, nav., optional color, and leather (oh, no!) to name a few -- and it would have cost the same as a low optioned RS, but it is absolutely stunning in every way. Get what YOU want......you have to look at it as well as drive it, but FYI there are a FEW people out there who prefer the standard gt3's cleaner look. As for track performance, the RS wins.
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if the car is set up well and if you are talking .2 versions, no way in hell is gt3 lighter and turn in better.
#23
All the cars were .2 including the std GT3. I just don't like the feel of the wider tires. Go drive a .2 GT3 you'll see what I mean. Think about it. If all things are the same but you add wider wheels and wider tires, the RS' steering can't be as sharp because the tires are just bigger. The GT3 just "felt" lighter more nimble to me.
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All the cars were .2 including the std GT3. I just don't like the feel of the wider tires. Go drive a .2 GT3 you'll see what I mean. Think about it. If all things are the same but you add wider wheels and wider tires, the RS' steering can't be as sharp because the tires are just bigger. The GT3 just "felt" lighter more nimble to me.
#26
i really think this is due to the sport adaptive seats in your rs versus the proper folding buckets in your gt3. the 1" greater tire width up front isn't going to make the RS feel any less "sharp" at turning in. actually if you get it aligned the RS should be very neutral. the gearing also greatly helps with the feel.
#27
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All the cars were .2 including the std GT3. I just don't like the feel of the wider tires. Go drive a .2 GT3 you'll see what I mean. Think about it. If all things are the same but you add wider wheels and wider tires, the RS' steering can't be as sharp because the tires are just bigger. The GT3 just "felt" lighter more nimble to me.
You would also; after significant track time, realize that the RS is actually more of a "drivers car" right out of the box that demands different inputs based on the proprioceptive feedback you would get driving them back to back.
The base 3 will tend to be more forgiving and lead to a false sense of security and eventually give you the "bite" you may be missing that comes from driving the RS at higher perfomance levels.
This trend will be replicated as you transition to a CUP and and then to the RSR in exponential fashion if you continue down toward the "dark side" as so many on this board have tended to.
BTW, take the RS...you've already been biten!
#28
I would say that your impressions b/w the two are anecdotal at the very best and not based on any track set up parameters that might be indexed to help on making such a comparison.
You would also; after significant track time, realize that the RS is actually more of a "drivers car" right out of the box that demands different inputs based on the proprioceptive feedback you would get driving them back to back.
You would also; after significant track time, realize that the RS is actually more of a "drivers car" right out of the box that demands different inputs based on the proprioceptive feedback you would get driving them back to back.
So Boxerman, you won't be dissappointed with either. All I'm saying is I had an awesome time with my std 3 and you will too if you get one. Though the RS is HOTTTTT!! Something about an RS. I had to have one and you'll prolly end up feeling the same way. You just can't take your eyes off of it. BTW, After the 2nd lap, I had the same view of the cars in the pic below but there were all in my rear view mirror. hee hee I miss my car
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Though I've only done three trackdays, I really had a good sense how my old .2 GT3 was dynamically.
#30
I totally agree that the GT3 is a wild animal! The lightweight components on the RS mostly make up for the added weight of its wider body. The RS downforce and wide body would change the feeling and straight line performance, but that's probably why it has 15 more hp. The RS can definitely turn a faster lap, but I wouldn't be so quick to assume it's more fun/rewarding.