WTB grey 997.2 GT3 RS...
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I had an 07 RS with PCCB's and got my '11 RS with regular steel brakes. PCCB's are more of a marketing gimmick and profit center for Porsche than anything else. The steel brakes are on par with the PCCB's (especially the new '11 bigger fronts) when it comes to performance, cheaper to replace and the "unsprung weight" difference, well I for sure can't tell the difference...driven a few Porsche's on the track over the years. Just my 2 cents.
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Thanks for the insight.
I thought the unsprung weight benefits are hard to beat. I recall that for every 1 pound saved in rotating mass equals about 10 pounds saved in static weight. And for every 120 pounds in static weight saved equals almost a gain of 17 BHP.
But then again if one doesn't track it then your right - one can't really spot the difference.
I thought the unsprung weight benefits are hard to beat. I recall that for every 1 pound saved in rotating mass equals about 10 pounds saved in static weight. And for every 120 pounds in static weight saved equals almost a gain of 17 BHP.
But then again if one doesn't track it then your right - one can't really spot the difference.
in theory sure.
on a bicycle, i can feel it and the acceleration in sprinting is big difference. but in long distance is not as big a deal. the lbs saving, even thouht important rotational wt, relative to total car wt in this case is not that much.
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i went for yellows this time around because didn't have them before and always wanted to try it out. i love how the car feels under braking, but the last one did just fine on steel too. one thing I don't miss is seeing spider web of cracks on the rotors all the time.
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I wonder why people would buy a RS.2 but not put PCCB's. I just think that an RS should at the very least have PCCB's.
Unless money no object, I disagree. Unlike the Movit ($20K) the OEM PCCB don't last forever and cost $8K+ to buy and are expensive to replace.
PCCB will be awesome when solid PCCB rotors like Movit will really last a lifetime. I wonder if they fit on the red calipers as well. I believe they are now the same, so if you buy a red caliper car, you can retro fit PCCB or Movit rotors easily.
With the new Co-Cast steel rotors the weight savings is minimal and I would gladly take heavier rotors if they lasted longer (Slotted) and were cheaper.
If you don't track it is no issue, but if you don't track why bother?
If you track 30+ track days a year I can buy OEM rotors for about 3/4 years. It is also recommended to only use up the $800+ brake pads only 50% to spare the PCCB rotors, so the pad cost increases as well.
Buying PCCB in my case would be betting that the PCCB rotors will last at least 3 years or about 90 drack days. This has not been proven yet, but maybe by now there are more track junkies that can post.
Maybe you would get some money back on resale, but not much, I think.
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FL Porsche,
Your car looks awesome, but I am set on grey. Thanks for the offer!
Trakcar, Mooty,
Appreciate the numbers. Readjusted my expectations.
I am now hunting for specific options at best price (grey (w/pref grey accent), axle, non-pccb). There is one on ebay that Ill canvas... thinking of $125k.
ZBB0730's looks great, but I won't need a cage for a while, dont like the red dials, and prefer stock exhaust. Though since Ill be exporting the car, I may have to replace the dash with metric.
Thanks again for the tips guys!
Peter
Your car looks awesome, but I am set on grey. Thanks for the offer!
Trakcar, Mooty,
Appreciate the numbers. Readjusted my expectations.
I am now hunting for specific options at best price (grey (w/pref grey accent), axle, non-pccb). There is one on ebay that Ill canvas... thinking of $125k.
ZBB0730's looks great, but I won't need a cage for a while, dont like the red dials, and prefer stock exhaust. Though since Ill be exporting the car, I may have to replace the dash with metric.
Thanks again for the tips guys!
Peter
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...you may want to consider my 2010 RS, unique that it is white with black graphics and trim, silver wheels with black center caps, nicely optioned with the RSS rollbar in powder coated black with the Tequipment GT3 HANS 6 point harness. This car has NEVER been on a track. I have only driven it 600 miles. 3M clear on front and 3M black on the hood. Photos on this link:
http://gallery.me.com/mw993#100497
MSRP $148+, plus the add-ons. Will discuss at $138,000. Thank you.
http://gallery.me.com/mw993#100497
MSRP $148+, plus the add-ons. Will discuss at $138,000. Thank you.
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...you may want to consider my 2010 RS, unique that it is white with black graphics and trim, silver wheels with black center caps, nicely optioned with the RSS rollbar in powder coated black with the Tequipment GT3 HANS 6 point harness. This car has NEVER been on a track. I have only driven it 600 miles. 3M clear on front and 3M black on the hood. Photos on this link:
http://gallery.me.com/mw993#100497
MSRP $148+, plus the add-ons. Will discuss at $138,000. Thank you.
http://gallery.me.com/mw993#100497
MSRP $148+, plus the add-ons. Will discuss at $138,000. Thank you.
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I won't need a cage for a while, dont like the red dials, and prefer stock exhaust.
FL Porsche..Selling so soon?? Nice looking RS is your front lip wrapped, or is it CF?
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As there hardly seems to be much discount for buying used, maybe new is the way to go. It is easily worth 20k to me to:
- be the first owner
- choose options
- know exactly how the car was used
- full warranty, no need for cpo etc.
Does anyone know if/where there are any GT3 Rs allocations left?
Thanks again,
Peter
- be the first owner
- choose options
- know exactly how the car was used
- full warranty, no need for cpo etc.
Does anyone know if/where there are any GT3 Rs allocations left?
Thanks again,
Peter
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I just came back from Stoddard's (Willoughby, Ohio) where I drove an '11 GT3 (very impressive next to me 993) and Turbo S (oh my, oh my!) to compare. They have a 2010 grey/red graphics RS on the showroom (new) with MRSP around $163K that was ordered and I guess deal fell through. I work with Brad Kennett there and he said they'll discount it to move it - don't know how much. Someone's coming in to drive it Monday and may buy it. Not my cup of tea, but nice looking. I didn't look that closely, but I think it has PCCBs. Brad's cell is 440-309-5002. My son was home from grad school and he tagged along. Brad and I went out in the GT3 and, when we got back, he said "your son shouldn't have to sit around; here, go for a ride" and handed me the keys to a brand new $173K Turbo S. I have no other affiliation, but if I can help him sell that RS, he already "paid" my son and me. Good luck to you.
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Here's the link. If this isn't a 997.2 GT3RS, sorry, I'm not up on the .2 part nomenclature. Looks like the first -$10K is taken care of:
http://stoddard.porschedealer.com/ne...59790/info.php
http://stoddard.porschedealer.com/ne...59790/info.php
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As there hardly seems to be much discount for buying used, maybe new is the way to go. It is easily worth 20k to me to:
- be the first owner
- choose options
- know exactly how the car was used
- full warranty, no need for cpo etc.
Does anyone know if/where there are any GT3 Rs allocations left?
Thanks again,
Peter
- be the first owner
- choose options
- know exactly how the car was used
- full warranty, no need for cpo etc.
Does anyone know if/where there are any GT3 Rs allocations left?
Thanks again,
Peter
there are no new allocation for RS. what u see out there is it. the one's not here yet are all specified.
it is always nice to get a new car spec'd the way you want. i did. but you also end up paying more for it (dep'n)
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As there hardly seems to be much discount for buying used, maybe new is the way to go. It is easily worth 20k to me to:
- be the first owner
- choose options
- know exactly how the car was used
- full warranty, no need for cpo etc.
Does anyone know if/where there are any GT3 Rs allocations left?
Thanks again,
Peter
- be the first owner
- choose options
- know exactly how the car was used
- full warranty, no need for cpo etc.
Does anyone know if/where there are any GT3 Rs allocations left?
Thanks again,
Peter
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By the way how everything sounds- if u want to find a used car with your specs in mind u may want to list what u want. Don't understand why u don't need a rollcage but each to your own- usually u get that at little costs to u. What's the point of having no rollcage- u can't even retrofit seats there. What u plan to do with the car neway? Grocery getter? Mike