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Old 02-24-2010, 08:09 PM
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Default HPDE / track insurance

I know this has been discussed often, but I was wondering about possible new companies offering HPDE / track insurance.

The last 2 years I had my '07 GT3 covered by Prosure, sold by Harbor American Specialty Brokers, underwritten by Lloyds in London.
Never used it, so not sure how good it is, but I think reputable.

I was informed yesterday (New car coming.) that when my policy, underwritten by Lloyds will not be renewed when it expires in October.

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I paid $4K last year and 3K this year and filled in that I do about 12 events a year.

Does anyone else have a policy from them, or an agent who uses Lloyds?
What are you guys getting quoted now and where?

I know about Lockton Affinity and their PCA program, but they quote per event and I am looking for cheaper annual coverage.

I know (proven) insurance companies that will cover your car on track for instructional purposes and if I can not get affordable HDPE / track insurance I should switch to at least improve my chances compared to Allstate who has it in my policy that they will not cover the car on track.

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Old 02-24-2010, 08:25 PM
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Im interested also. My wife and I are adrenaline junkies when it comes to track days. If I dont finish the day thinking "Oh sh*t, I made it" at the end of the day, it would be a boring day...
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Id like to know too!
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http://www.wsibinsurance.com/online/de.shtml

Forms are online to get a quote, seems exactly what I am looking for.

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If you have questions or would like to speak to a representative please call
1-866-904-9742 or email Kraig Hopkins at: kraigh@wsibinsurance.com

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I've used WSIB for the last couple years. Also know 3 people who have had claims, and they pay.
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I've used WSIB for the last couple years. Also know 3 people who have had claims, and they pay.
I got a quote back the same day, looks like I will be all set.
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Are you folks talking about racing insurance or just track day coverage? My policy has the racing carve-out, but as far as I know (and I've relied on legal counsel and our commercial agent) I am covered for trackdays, DE, etc as long as the events don't have lap timers.
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My policy has the racing carve-out, but as far as I know (and I've relied on legal counsel and our commercial agent) I am covered for trackdays, DE, etc as long as the events don't have lap timers.[/QUOTE]

Ditto. I was set to purchase HPDE insurance until i called my agent. I begin to explain what I was going to do and that the events were PCA sponsored when he stopped me, said he was very familiar with the PCA DE's, and that absolutlely, 100% , I was covered. He said that as long as it wasn't a timed race and I wasn't being paid to race that i was OK. Made my day.
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Originally Posted by KBS911
My policy has the racing carve-out, but as far as I know (and I've relied on legal counsel and our commercial agent) I am covered for trackdays, DE, etc as long as the events don't have lap timers.
Ditto. I was set to purchase HPDE insurance until i called my agent. I begin to explain what I was going to do and that the events were PCA sponsored when he stopped me, said he was very familiar with the PCA DE's, and that absolutlely, 100% , I was covered. He said that as long as it wasn't a timed race and I wasn't being paid to race that i was OK. Made my day.[/QUOTE]

which insurance firm you with?
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Got in touch with them today, very quick reply. $4k for a 2010 GT3 for 10 DE events in one year. Sounds reasonable (versus the $732 I was just quoted for one event I am attending next week with a different firm).
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Originally Posted by FLM911
Ditto. I was set to purchase HPDE insurance until i called my agent. I begin to explain what I was going to do and that the events were PCA sponsored when he stopped me, said he was very familiar with the PCA DE's, and that absolutlely, 100% , I was covered. He said that as long as it wasn't a timed race and I wasn't being paid to race that i was OK. Made my day.
which insurance firm you with?[/QUOTE]

I have Allstate and I haven't asked them for fear I'd see my policy canceled. Who do you have? Maybe it's time for me to switch...
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Look in your policy under "Physical Damage Exclusions". It will specifically exclude "preparation for or competing in a contest, or timed event." Which does not exclude DE's, however, some policies have added language specifying losses which occur on a closed circuit used for racing.
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USAA (United Services Automobile Association) will cover a non timed event. Since they are not specifically covering you for HPDE, they can can drop your vehicle if you have three claims on the same vehicle.

Fortunately I have not had to test it out but I did ask underwriting these specific questions and they said I am covered. My premium on the 996 GT3 is $630 per annum on a policy of several vehicles.
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........get a purpose built race car if you are going to time events or want to be on the edge most often. My race car is also insured but for theft only.
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I only do DE events, and I seem to recall the language being vague in my policy. I'll go have another look.

Good to know about USAA, I have a rather nervous friend who wants to DE his 996 C4S and thinks he needs separate track insurance.


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