sws1

Just wondering. Are their brakes better than Porsches? Are they outrageously expensive? (It's a Ferrari - I'm sure they are.) Do they wear quickly? It is purely a money thing (Ferrari owners don't care what brakes cost)?

Just wondering why we have so much debate here, yet Ferrari has moved over to ceramic for 100% of the cars.

Bob Rouleau

How many Ferrari guys track their cars? I do know that the 430 Challenge car uses Ceramics and Challenge rules specify new rotors every 1500 kilometers! And Yes they are expensive, 23,000 bucks a pair.

SquirrelRS

Hello,
I'm a Ferrari F430 owner. I have Ceramic brakes on it. 32000km and 25% wear on the front and rear rotors. They calculate the wear using the number of heat and cool down cycles. Not that they measure the rotors. There is a special ECU for the brakes.
I have tracked the car a few times.
But one front rotor only cost 3000€ as the ceramic rotor for a Porsche is 6000€ !
Friends that track their Scuderia have no issues with the brakes, as others do. It really depends on who is driving and how the brakes are warmed up a let cool down ! As for a Porsche.

russo

Generally speaking, most Ferrari's don't get to see a track; hence, wear and tear on the brakes is not much of an issue. For most Ferrari owners, the main concern is to maintain low mileage and thus keep their resale values high.

Porsche917K

It seems like the ceramics are a must have for the F430. There is a guy here in Portland who has one with steel brakes and he constantly complains about how they heat up very quick.

SquirrelRS

Same thing with many Porsche owners.

-eztrader-

I've been on track a few times, have had no issues with my 430 scuderia. I have only heard of one or two guys that have needed replacements - and they're not cheap (30k'sh)...

as for the compare - I don't have enough seat time in the gt3 to make an accurate comparison - (only 300 miles so far) -

As per the reason Ferrari puts them on all cars now - I would assume it has a lot to do with profit margin

Bob Rouleau

Friends up here with the 360 CS or 430 Scud track ther cars but infrequently - a few days a year mostly. On the other hand the 430 Challenge race car goes through ceramic rotors quickly and at great expense. Owners miss the iron rotors which were on the 360 Challenge race car.

Best,

sandy59

I think they might be pretty much the same brakes. I had my car next to a 430 with ceramics, and the calipers looked identical Brembo ones, and the actual disks looked amazingly similar.

Dino944

Actually, I think it depends on the Ferrari's age. The older cars don't get tracked much, but they would not be competitive out on a track. Anyway at the shop where I get my car serviced I see plenty of customers 360s, 430s and a few 355s that get dropped off to be loaded onto trucks for upcoming track days.

As for brakes, in either 2007 or 2008, ceramic brakes became standard equipment instead of an option on all new Ferraris.

Best regards,
Dino

996FLT6

Last time I was a SP- all the ferrari's stayed parked at the paddock. It was raining. Mike

n2cars

I have a 430 Scuderia that I do run on the track. Brakes are amazingly good on the track but too "touchy" for me on the street. I preferred the CCBs on my 997 gt3 for daily use. Ferrari went to CCBs probably to increase the profit margin. Although on the Ferrari 599, Ferrari said the car was so fast that steel brakes would not stop the car properly and went to CCBs. I miss my gt3 and now I'm hoping to order a 2010. I want a stripper so I will order the gt3 with steel brakes.

mooty

no, they stay parked b/c you were there. they are afraid of you.

rodjac

996flt6 There was also a white GT2 parked nearby that didn't go out in the rain also. I can't get the hang of not being stupid in the rain.

russo

Please note, I stated that generally speaking Ferrari owners do not track their vehicles, you will always find a few track enthusiast that track the hell out of their Ferrari's. On the other hand, many GT3/RS owners live for track days. From personal experience, I know half a dozen Ferrari owners that do not track their cars. In fact, most of these fellows don't even drive them. Indeed, most participants at track events are either Porsches, Corvettes, BMW's and Miata's.