How Old are you GT3 Racer
11-25-2009, 02:23 PM
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...Actually I think it has too much grip and thats why i'll be selling it and getting something 'more fun' more of the time.
The biggest problem now is the advanced stability and traction control that cars come with which means that driver skill is becoming less and less important and less in evidence. Whether you are more likely to get it wrong in a GT3/F430/M3 seem to be the same chance when driven badly and beyond the drivers skill level. Every car can be crashed and I think the 997s are so planted compared to the older cars but the reason we love 911s is the unique way the drive and they way you use and exploit those characteristics.
The biggest problem now is the advanced stability and traction control that cars come with which means that driver skill is becoming less and less important and less in evidence. Whether you are more likely to get it wrong in a GT3/F430/M3 seem to be the same chance when driven badly and beyond the drivers skill level. Every car can be crashed and I think the 997s are so planted compared to the older cars but the reason we love 911s is the unique way the drive and they way you use and exploit those characteristics.
WRT the limits being so high - you are right that anything can be crashed and that's the inherent danger in a car with this much HP and grip - the stability control helps but the laws of physics can not be repealed so things can still go wrong and when they do, they tend to go very wrong.
oh - and I'm 41 - bought my first p-car about 10 years ago and have been driving them in my dreams all my life
11-25-2009, 05:53 PM
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I am 69. My 2004 GT3 was the first Porsche I ever drove. Bought is without driving it and never regretted the decision. Tracked it for four years with about 25 days a year--a fantastic car in every way and not that hard to drive fast. This year I moved on to a 2008 GT2. An even more fantastic car that is easier to drive fast.
11-25-2009, 07:19 PM
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Driven my friends old 79 930 turbo - man that was a scary ride. Gt3 is much more forgiving but it'll bite when it happens. Mike Ps- I'm 45 bought gt3 new at age 40 and never test drove one. Best car I've owned so far.
11-25-2009, 07:27 PM
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It does have an amazing amount of mechanical grip and then there are all the electronic features, that you can fortunately turn off. I'm with you on the too much grip - sometimes it's fun to have to go out there and work a little more and the older cars can be very rewarding for that. I don't think I'll sell my GT3 but am fortunate enough to have the old RS for the track and may even buy/build another 70-73 model as a street car for the fun.
Funny you should mention the 70-73 build as i'm looking at a 71 ST rep with 300bhp and sub-1000kg which cost £140,000 to build which will slide around all day long
11-25-2009, 08:11 PM
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11-25-2009, 09:27 PM
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36 and my gt3 is my second 911 but the first I have tracked
I think if you have patience and are willing to wait to go faster as you skill and experience grow - the car is great.
If you get into it and drive it like you drive your sti on forza you will pay
I think if you have patience and are willing to wait to go faster as you skill and experience grow - the car is great.
If you get into it and drive it like you drive your sti on forza you will pay
11-25-2009, 10:13 PM
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I'm thinking somewhere in that range but maybe not start that extreme. That's sounds like a hell of a fun car! I would love to see more details.
11-26-2009, 12:00 AM
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I do love how the GT3 drives and can't see myself going back to a car with a Nanny sitting on my shoulder.
11-26-2009, 12:17 AM
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11-26-2009, 12:51 AM
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36 ... bought the car a couple days before my 34th birthday. Second 911, first of which I couldn't bear to part with.
Thought I'd take my 997S to the track to see what the car could do. Well that was an expensive decision. Tires, fuel, travel, brakes, another car ... Over a hundred track days later, many of them private unlimited time days, and I'm a PCA National Instructor. Best decision I've made in years. Met a lot of great friends.
Thought I'd take my 997S to the track to see what the car could do. Well that was an expensive decision. Tires, fuel, travel, brakes, another car ... Over a hundred track days later, many of them private unlimited time days, and I'm a PCA National Instructor. Best decision I've made in years. Met a lot of great friends.
11-26-2009, 01:09 AM
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45 - second 911, first GT3. Prior P car was 1971. Nowhere near the hp of the GT3, but lots of fun to drive. I like to think I'm used to the rear engine setup, but this car reminds me that there is lots more to learn...
11-26-2009, 02:11 AM
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just passed 40..... mid life crisis, you dont want to know how much my garage changed in the last 3 months....
started tracking 2002 in 996c2
236 tracks (35000 track miles) to date
started instructing 2007
started racing 2009
first GT3 in 2004 when i was 35
tracked lotus, cayman s, box s, box, 996c2, 997, 997GT3, 996gt3, 996t
modern 911's aren't hard to drive. i drive it very similar to cayman/box.
but in my parents' 911SC, 911 3.2 that's a different story, you REALLY cannot lift....
started tracking 2002 in 996c2
236 tracks (35000 track miles) to date
started instructing 2007
started racing 2009
first GT3 in 2004 when i was 35
tracked lotus, cayman s, box s, box, 996c2, 997, 997GT3, 996gt3, 996t
modern 911's aren't hard to drive. i drive it very similar to cayman/box.
but in my parents' 911SC, 911 3.2 that's a different story, you REALLY cannot lift....
11-26-2009, 06:19 AM
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Glad to see experts here and instructors.
I never owned porsche but hope in next May i will be.
It is a must to own if you can pay and porsche should'nt be a family car.
Buy another car to carry your family but GT3, no space for kids.
And for you younger guys owning porsche, you are really so lucky to own it in this age.
I never owned porsche but hope in next May i will be.
It is a must to own if you can pay and porsche should'nt be a family car.
Buy another car to carry your family but GT3, no space for kids.
And for you younger guys owning porsche, you are really so lucky to own it in this age.
11-26-2009, 08:08 AM
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35 and my 2010 gt3 (due for 03/10 delivery) will be my first Porsche. With the obsene local pricing, I thought I'd go straight to the top... Made it a goal to own it by the time I was 35... Ordered a week after my 35th. Culprate was late allocations for Aus but close enough, near enough...
Any instructors amogst you planning to take a holiday out to Aus? Could use some quality tuition once the 3 arrives...
Any instructors amogst you planning to take a holiday out to Aus? Could use some quality tuition once the 3 arrives...