While in Germany...
09-05-2009, 09:19 PM
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AWESOME pictures! Thanks!!
09-07-2009, 12:23 AM
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My girlfriend and and a couple of friends did this journey this summer.
In total 9 mountainpasses. Especially Grossglockner are Stelvio are spectacular. Remember to drive the roads marked Scenic. If not you will miss all the candy and only drive the highways.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...,2.113495&z=10
In total 9 mountainpasses. Especially Grossglockner are Stelvio are spectacular. Remember to drive the roads marked Scenic. If not you will miss all the candy and only drive the highways.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...,2.113495&z=10
As far as getting a copy of the article I wrote of the trip, if you are a PCA member you will get a copy of the article in the next several months.
Thanks for the compliment
09-07-2009, 12:34 AM
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Great news my fellow Rennlisters!!!
My 2010 GT3 is getting closer to her final destination!!! The vessel she is on has left her first port of Halifax Canada yesterday and is on her way to Baltimore as I type this.
I am obviously quite excited to be reunited. I have a complete track schedule laid out for the rest of the year, including 6 days at Watkins Glen (3 different events), 2 days at Lightning at NJMP, 2 days at Summit Point and 3 days at VIR. If I get enough work done this month I may even throw in another event at VIR and possibly another Summit Point event.
I have been busy getting supplies for the car ready, like harness parts and window tear off covers and torque wrenches and stuff. Like Blains said earlier, it is a way to start nesting!
My 2010 GT3 is getting closer to her final destination!!! The vessel she is on has left her first port of Halifax Canada yesterday and is on her way to Baltimore as I type this.
I am obviously quite excited to be reunited. I have a complete track schedule laid out for the rest of the year, including 6 days at Watkins Glen (3 different events), 2 days at Lightning at NJMP, 2 days at Summit Point and 3 days at VIR. If I get enough work done this month I may even throw in another event at VIR and possibly another Summit Point event.
I have been busy getting supplies for the car ready, like harness parts and window tear off covers and torque wrenches and stuff. Like Blains said earlier, it is a way to start nesting!
09-07-2009, 08:13 AM
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What I'm struggling to figure out is how far I can get - I'm likely to have three or maybe four days from collecting the car in Stuttgart to needing to back back home in the UK.
I figure I can do Basel/Zurich area back to home in a (long) day which leaves me two or three to go from Stuttgart down to the mountains and through...
09-07-2009, 08:59 AM
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Nice! Out of interest, how long did you spend doing the passes (eg from Salzberg across to Bern)?
What I'm struggling to figure out is how far I can get - I'm likely to have three or maybe four days from collecting the car in Stuttgart to needing to back back home in the UK.
I figure I can do Basel/Zurich area back to home in a (long) day which leaves me two or three to go from Stuttgart down to the mountains and through...
What I'm struggling to figure out is how far I can get - I'm likely to have three or maybe four days from collecting the car in Stuttgart to needing to back back home in the UK.
I figure I can do Basel/Zurich area back to home in a (long) day which leaves me two or three to go from Stuttgart down to the mountains and through...
If you have three/four days available, I would recommend the route from Salzburg to Davos and so go north by Zürich or Lichtenstein. Then you will get to see Grossglockner/Edelweisspitze, the Italian Dolomittes, Stelvio pass + lots of other mountainpasses. The best part if you ask me.
09-07-2009, 03:07 PM
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Euro Delivery tips
Get yourself a portable navigation system. When you order nav in a Porsche it will have North America in it and will do you no good while in Europe. Plug your destinations into the nav before you go so you do not have to fumble with it over there.
Get yourself a portable navigation system. When you order nav in a Porsche it will have North America in it and will do you no good while in Europe. Plug your destinations into the nav before you go so you do not have to fumble with it over there.
TDM - thanks for sharing your adventures. Truly enjoyed all your reports and pics. I did the ED back in 2005 for my M3 and promised myself I would do it again, but next time a Porsche. I will be studying all your reports and advise in more detail and hopefully will be able to arrange ED for next year. We are getting ready to leave on Sunday for Germany for 2 weeks. Unfortunately, not picking up a car on this trip. But I am interested in the portable nav you used. Which brand, model and were you happen with it? Thanks again, and enjoy the car. BTW great choice on the car, and more importantly on doing the ED for that car (and I confess I am green with envy). Congratulations.
09-09-2009, 12:56 AM
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Hey, The nav unit was a Garmin and was borrowed from a friend. All I can tell you is that it had the European info in it, including gas stations and restaurants and stuff like that. Make sure whatever you get does have Europe on it!
09-09-2009, 05:36 AM
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I've used Garmin and TomTom in Germany, and I've been a passenger in a car using a Panasonic. There does not seem to be a lot to recommend either of them. I bought a Euro TomTom mostly because I have a US Garmin in the US and wanted to try it out. I think it might be a bit better for Europe.
09-09-2009, 09:14 AM
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Great thread, keep it coming! 
Just a note on the top speed and speedo error.
It is German law (or so I have read numerous times) that the manufacturers of cars in Germany make the speedo show the actual speed the car is going or higher; but never less. So to err on the side of caution, the speedos are always on the high side. I have read on many boards that the newer Porsches are off by a set delta (usually seems to be 3 mph), but I have also read they are off by a percentage.
My 997.1 GT3 produced the following results: I was able to get it to an indicated speed of 192 mph, but did not have GPS to verify. Later I found that the speedo error on mine is right about 6-7% and verified this through several speed ranges with GPS including up to 160 mph indicated.
So when I showed 192, I was actually doing about 179 to 180 mph. I don't think I had much more on the tach, but I cannot be sure as I was watching the road. Also, this test was performed at about 4,000 ft of elevation, which should cut power output by about 12%.
You were probably doing about 188 to 189 mph, which would explain the extra rpm left, and then seems about right for a top speed of 194. I assume you were at a fairly low elevation?
Either way, that is freakin' FAST!!! Good Job!
Yes the speedo is off, and probably a lot more than most think.
Just a note on the top speed and speedo error.
It is German law (or so I have read numerous times) that the manufacturers of cars in Germany make the speedo show the actual speed the car is going or higher; but never less. So to err on the side of caution, the speedos are always on the high side. I have read on many boards that the newer Porsches are off by a set delta (usually seems to be 3 mph), but I have also read they are off by a percentage.
My 997.1 GT3 produced the following results: I was able to get it to an indicated speed of 192 mph, but did not have GPS to verify. Later I found that the speedo error on mine is right about 6-7% and verified this through several speed ranges with GPS including up to 160 mph indicated.
So when I showed 192, I was actually doing about 179 to 180 mph. I don't think I had much more on the tach, but I cannot be sure as I was watching the road. Also, this test was performed at about 4,000 ft of elevation, which should cut power output by about 12%.
You were probably doing about 188 to 189 mph, which would explain the extra rpm left, and then seems about right for a top speed of 194. I assume you were at a fairly low elevation?
Either way, that is freakin' FAST!!! Good Job!
Yes the speedo is off, and probably a lot more than most think.
09-09-2009, 09:54 AM
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I've used Garmin and TomTom in Germany, and I've been a passenger in a car using a Panasonic. There does not seem to be a lot to recommend either of them. I bought a Euro TomTom mostly because I have a US Garmin in the US and wanted to try it out. I think it might be a bit better for Europe.
Thanks for the info on the nav systems. I did end up ordering the TomTom based on reviews i read. The first destination I will enter when I get it will be the Frankfurt Auto Show.
09-23-2009, 10:49 AM
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Several of us had the opportunity to see Mikes car in person this past Monday Tuesday at the Glen.
What can you say but what a beauty, the seats alone are a work of art. Sounds quiet until you romp on it. I was following Mike on the streets in my Avalanche and at 60 it seemed like it wasn't moving but once he got on it, it was obvious how quick it was.
I guess we can all hope for one someday.
BTW Mike this was the road I was talking to you about where we lost our brakes midway down in a Jaguar XJ12 many years ago.
What can you say but what a beauty, the seats alone are a work of art. Sounds quiet until you romp on it. I was following Mike on the streets in my Avalanche and at 60 it seemed like it wasn't moving but once he got on it, it was obvious how quick it was.
I guess we can all hope for one someday.
BTW Mike this was the road I was talking to you about where we lost our brakes midway down in a Jaguar XJ12 many years ago.
09-23-2009, 02:53 PM
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Thanks Nizer! That ending totally sounds like Sabine! She is such an entertaining person!
Good to see you up there Tony!
So the GT3 did land in the States last week and has already seen some track time. I will give a full report some time next week
Good driving to all!!!