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Old 06-01-2009 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by fjpdds
My car was the GT3 using the Cup spoiler at VIR last week.
Tonight, I get the car out for a sundown milk run. Three miles down the road, as I'm boxed in with a few cars going around 55, the guy in front passes over and reveals a bit of a tree trunk in the road. With nowhere to go and a big duelie on my rear, I hit it dead center. Another splitter bites the dust. It was on for about a month. Ugh! Back to the original style I have on hand.
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Old 06-01-2009 | 01:35 PM
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Old 06-03-2009 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mnorek
Yes and yes, especially in esses pictured in your avatar photo.
sorry for what may be a stupid question, but just how much more downforce is more downforce?

the track i go to is a tiny, relatively low-speed track compared to what most of you are probably used to-- speed at the end of the main straight is just over 110-115 mph (so its not a very long straight obviously), and speeds thru the two brief sweeping sections are maybe 80+ mph...

at these speeds, would there be a noticeable benefit from a splitter and adjustment of the rear wing?

below what sort of speeds do you NOT get any benefit from more downforce? like, i assume a 2nd gear hairpin is way way too slow for there to be a difference...

thanks in advance!
Old 06-03-2009 | 04:45 PM
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Im putting a group buy together with my shop in the next week.

Pm me for pricing, its about $200 less than the GT3 splitter from suncoast.
Old 06-04-2009 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mobonic
Im putting a group buy together with my shop in the next week.

Pm me for pricing, its about $200 less than the GT3 splitter from suncoast.

So about $20.00? I'll take 10 please.
Old 06-04-2009 | 06:00 AM
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I was referring to retail.

If someone wants a price quote PM me.
Old 06-04-2009 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hesperus
sorry for what may be a stupid question, but just how much more downforce is more downforce?
Sorry for what may be a stupid answer. It depends upon how finely tuned your butt-accelerometer is, how low your car is to the ground (i.e. what the aero differences really are over stock), and whether or not those are the only changes. I noticed way less twitchiness going up the esses at the Glen over the last time I went up them in "stock" configuration. Was it a scientific experiment? No.

the track i go to is a tiny, relatively low-speed track compared to what most of you are probably used to-- speed at the end of the main straight is just over 110-115 mph (so its not a very long straight obviously), and speeds thru the two brief sweeping sections are maybe 80+ mph...

at these speeds, would there be a noticeable benefit from a splitter and adjustment of the rear wing?
If you are driving the car to near its ability (which is highly unlikely unless you have been paid to race a car), and your GT3 is already set up to that track for your driving style; the answer is yes. I'm no slouch around a track, and between instructing at DEs race a lesser marque without embarrassing myself much, but I doubt that I could feel a problem (meaning getting unsettled behavior with constant, smooth inputs) with the 997 GT3 at the track you describe. I possibly could with my race car.

below what sort of speeds do you NOT get any benefit from more downforce? like, i assume a 2nd gear hairpin is way way too slow for there to be a difference...
Depends upon you and your car. High downforce on low speed tracks is great to have if you can get it, but I would guess the amount of downforce difference we're talking from a cup car front splitter and a notch or two on the rear GT3 (non-RS) are pretty insignificant to mere weekend warriors.
Old 06-04-2009 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by flash1034
How does one go about ordering a Cup spoiler with holes from ViperBob?
See post #3 in this thread. That's him. Send him a PM, an email, or call as others pointed out.
Old 06-05-2009 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by viperbob
That is all my GT3 customers use. GT3s get most of there cooling through the bumper and just a little under the car (better aero over the 996 Cups with the big scoops underneath the car) PM does make a 997 Cup verison with ducts, but they recently stopped bringing them into the country as no one bought them...
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Old 06-05-2009 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
PM ViperBob, or call FVD in Deerfield beach, FL. Ask for Ronda, I will be picking one up Monday :-)
I have previously ordered my spiltter w/holes from FVD ... sporting PCCB's
I am happy to trade downforce for extra cooling on those expensive rotors
Old 06-05-2009 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Cable
...extra cooling...
Don't forget Cup car "ducts". They're way longer and force a lot more air to your rotors than the GT3 ones.
Old 06-05-2009 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mnorek
Don't forget Cup car "ducts". They're way longer and force a lot more air to your rotors than the GT3 ones.
I think that is only true for the 996's ... I got a set from GMG a while back and
they turned out to be exactly the same as the street ducts ... which I called
GMG on ... they claimed that's what Motorsport NA gave them...

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Old 06-05-2009 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Cable
I think that is only true for the 996's ... I got a set from GMG a while back and
they turned out to be exactly the same as the street ducts ... which I called
GMG on ... they claimed that's what Motorsport NA gave them...

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F***king typical of GMG ... of course those are the street parts ...
Old 06-05-2009 | 09:11 PM
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BTW the PN for the cup splitter w/holes is 997.505.986.90
Old 06-05-2009 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Cable
I think that is only true for ...
Nope. The motorsport parts are way deeper, Kenny at Conway Autoworks just showed them to me side by side the other day. I haven't used them yet, but I would wager some serious money (if data was by thermocouple) that those are worth a lot more cooling than a couple of holes in the front motorsport lip.


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