Automobile magazine praises GT2, disses GT-R
02-09-2009 | 09:44 PM
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7:29
think of all the free PR they got with that little fib... was it worth it... of course
think of the hype for this car prior to the economy collapsing
it is bs and everyone knows it... as to them offering to give Porsche driving instruction when they could not duplicate the 7:29 with their showroom GTR... just another mortar round in the supposed battle...
Is the GTR awesome -- sure, technilogical marvel, Godzilla, new school, etc etc
Is it a 7:29 car -- well a Nissan test driver (suzuki?) supposedly did it... but in a bone stock showroom car on stock tires... it seems that Chris Harris and others cannot fathom it...
If it is so easy why don't they just do it again and let the press attend the event? I mean now that the car is out what is the big secret? Do it again and prove all the doubters wrong... seems simple to me.
Come on Nissan... the automotive press at large has pretty much said you are lying... maybe Porsche should give you some lap timing instruction in exchange for the driving instruction that you offered.
think of all the free PR they got with that little fib... was it worth it... of course
think of the hype for this car prior to the economy collapsing
it is bs and everyone knows it... as to them offering to give Porsche driving instruction when they could not duplicate the 7:29 with their showroom GTR... just another mortar round in the supposed battle...
Is the GTR awesome -- sure, technilogical marvel, Godzilla, new school, etc etc
Is it a 7:29 car -- well a Nissan test driver (suzuki?) supposedly did it... but in a bone stock showroom car on stock tires... it seems that Chris Harris and others cannot fathom it...
If it is so easy why don't they just do it again and let the press attend the event? I mean now that the car is out what is the big secret? Do it again and prove all the doubters wrong... seems simple to me.
Come on Nissan... the automotive press at large has pretty much said you are lying... maybe Porsche should give you some lap timing instruction in exchange for the driving instruction that you offered.
It's hard to even put Porsche and Nissan in the same sentence. <cough>
At first I though the awd might give it an advantage in those testing conditions, but clearly Nissan got caught in a big one.
I guess in marketing terms they were just trying to get publicity.
It's just very good of Automobile to publish an honest article calling them out.
02-10-2009 | 12:20 AM
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Readers can decide for themselves whether OldGuy's account of it is complete and accurate.
I suggest doing the same about Automobile's article about the GTR vs GT2 and see whether it "disses" the GTR.
Regards,
Chris
02-10-2009 | 12:50 AM
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I recommend reading the said article, here is the link: http://viewer.zmags.co.uk/showmag.ph...1&_x=1#/page2/
Readers can decide for themselves whether OldGuy's account of it is complete and accurate.
I suggest doing the same about Automobile's article about the GTR vs GT2 and see whether it "disses" the GTR.
Regards,
Chris
Readers can decide for themselves whether OldGuy's account of it is complete and accurate.
I suggest doing the same about Automobile's article about the GTR vs GT2 and see whether it "disses" the GTR.
Regards,
Chris
02-10-2009 | 12:52 AM
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Every time I saw a GT-R on the road I find the car to be very attractive and have very good proportions in it's design. This is a Japanese car that doesn't try to look anything other than just that. The roof-line is brilliantly executed.
But if I were in $70K range; I would not know whether to get a cherry 996 GT3 or a slightly used GT-R.
But if I were in $70K range; I would not know whether to get a cherry 996 GT3 or a slightly used GT-R.
02-10-2009 | 01:01 AM
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Regards,
Chris
02-10-2009 | 07:56 AM
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Very good read indeed! I enjoyed it.
Well, they said the 911 experience is diluted now and the car feel more GT than sport. PDK makes it worst with no driver involvement. The engine is muted. But it is very quick and has no problem following the Aston, Audi and GTR.
However they said from an enthusiast perspective the GTR is the winner.
Well, they said the 911 experience is diluted now and the car feel more GT than sport. PDK makes it worst with no driver involvement. The engine is muted. But it is very quick and has no problem following the Aston, Audi and GTR.
However they said from an enthusiast perspective the GTR is the winner.
02-10-2009 | 02:33 PM
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I recommend reading the said article, here is the link: http://viewer.zmags.co.uk/showmag.ph...1&_x=1#/page2/
Readers can decide for themselves whether OldGuy's account of it is complete and accurate.
I suggest doing the same about Automobile's article about the GTR vs GT2 and see whether it "disses" the GTR.
Regards,
Chris
Readers can decide for themselves whether OldGuy's account of it is complete and accurate.
I suggest doing the same about Automobile's article about the GTR vs GT2 and see whether it "disses" the GTR.
Regards,
Chris
02-10-2009 | 03:43 PM
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Burning Brakes
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So, long story short; if my brother were thinking of buying a GT-R, I would suggest him not to buy such techno-packed "Ring"-barer car, at the very least, in the first year.
02-10-2009 | 06:28 PM
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Not a PDK, launch away over and over with no warranty issues
02-10-2009 | 10:43 PM
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That is why many of us are eagerly waiting to see whether Porsche will fit PDK to the 997 turbo along with launch control, as another contributor said on a parallel thread this will be an apple-to-apple comparison with the GTR. The reason is that launch control on a high powered 4WD is far harsher than a similar setup on a lower hp/torque RWD car.
Regards,
Chris
Regards,
Chris
02-11-2009 | 01:11 AM
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Re-test is what we need to see the truth as pointed out above
If I got the car and live in Germany, I will offer Suzuki, take my stock car n drive it like a legend, prove to the world that u can really break 7.30!
If I got the car and live in Germany, I will offer Suzuki, take my stock car n drive it like a legend, prove to the world that u can really break 7.30!