mdrums

Thanks CJ and MJ Speed...you are lucky guys! I admire and respect your resistance to hurt Porsche by releasing sensative info you all saw.

We had my 2009 997S up on a lift yesterday and as I was told it appears that this engine is the base for some other upcomming race spec dry sump engines due to some plumbing routes/fixtures and so forth.

For me I am loving my 2009 C2S with PDK...it's off to Sebring for a track event next weekend to really check out PDK so i can live in my own little world.

see ya! Mike

MJones

Under all of that strange rear end camo could be this:
US Patent Application.
Pub No,:2008/0272616A1

Carrera GT

This reminds me; what is the use of the "lane changes" label on that car?

ps. I think MJones has a career opportunity in industrial espionage ...

Carrera GT

Took me a minute to trim that doc id down enough for Google to find it. : )

http://www.google.com/search?q=20080272616

Patent lawyers are certainly paid by the word. Talk about verbose. "With the foregoing and other objects in view there is provided, in accordance with the invention (...)" ... and ... "may be adjusted, by means of an adjustment device " ... that's just pathetic.

C.J. Ichiban

why is it in english? this particular car is getting so much attention I think it's hilarious.

djcxxx

Interesting conversation. The essential question regarding the fate of the 911 and its potential successor really is the same as it was in 1978 when the 928 was introduced. it was a clean sheet of paper and very advanced. A lot of R&D money went into the 928, and reputations/careers were also at stake because it was a lot of money for a family owned company to invest. It was supposed to lead Porsche away from the 911 and into the modern era. My father, a 73 911T owner, said at the launch we attended that it didn't fit his idea of a Porsche. I told him it was the future. He said then he'll live in the past. The 911 is a blessing and a curse. It has defined Porsche, made tons of money for them, and won races galore. The overall design has proved flexible and adaptable in the hands of clever engineers. But how much more can be done w/ a rear engine design that must resemble a 44 year old forebear?? If Porsche actually tried another clean sheet of paper, as some suggest, would the result be the same as the 928? Can Porsche afford that mistake, again? Until the market votes the 911 out of office Porsche will continue to evolve the basic concept--evoke the 1964 shape and retain a rear mounted flat six. A Panamera coupe is a safe way to bring back the 928 and try to capture a little of that market niche (6 series/CL).

cello

CJ & MJSpeed - First, thanks for sharing!

CJ - Can you please clarify the two statements above (and bolded language): I think you are talking about the same car (the 2010 997.2 gt3) - right? Thx.

ArcticGT3

CJ,

I can't believe that nobody reacted to your mention of a "GTxxx" in another thread. I understand that you won't say anymore than that, but it sounds very exciting!

MJones,

Regarding the "air guidance device," it looks to me like it's a variation of what will be on the Panamera:

Carrera GT

Useful pic of the Panamera (never thought anyone would need to say that ...) and that wing ... sorry Mr Porsche ... "air guidance device."

I read the "GTxxx" comments and -- aside from being pleasantly surprised to hear of Porsche doing more than changing the headlights and calling it an update -- took it to be as much as known by the person posting or at least as much as they care to divulge for whatever rhyme or reason.

Snowboarder54

True, and VW owns Audi which has some very cool and secret technology about lightweight materials which are used in the construction of the R10’s. Porsche now owns 51% of VW. Which means Porsche now has access to that very secret technology!! This could be interesting.

Snowboarder54

Not everyone!!

C.J. Ichiban

arctic- I left the name gtxxx because I hope people are smart enough to read between the lines. if I said I saw some gt3s, well it's not that.

is that the official porsche supplied pic of the panamera wing? I will reiterate that the car sounds amazing and will have some really snazzy tech on it...


cello- the car I saw was the black one here
http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/Pors...Srestyling.jpg

happy noises. save up kids, and join me in line for one!

Spyderidol

Hi CJ!
Thanks for the information. It does not surprise me in the slightest.

Interesting quote from a recent article by Andrew Cotton:
"What will Porsche do? Rumours abound that it will produce a mid-engine 911 which will race the new Audi R8 GT car in the new GT1 class, while continuing to milk the cash cow 997 GT3 RSR for GT2, and return to LMP1 in 2010. It is a big ask of a manufacturer with a clear motive of not spending money if it can help it, and which has had its fingers burned with the RS Spyder. But then, who in the 1990s expected it to be in a position to take such a holding in the VW Group in 2008?"

cello

CJ - Thank you again! D@mn nice lookin car in that pic. Glad to 'hear' it sounds good and runs well

Spyderidol - That statement has to be balanced against the following comment in the 11/08 Panorama, European Windows section (after discussing GT2 rule changes which wld impact Porsche due to rear engine and passenger compartment configurations, there is the following blurb):

"Porsche's GT contender will not look much different from the current RSR...but I wld love to be a fly on the wall when the subject next appears on the agenda. There is still a very strong lobby in Weissach to develop the mid-engined Cayman, altho Dr Wiedeking remains strongly opposed to any diversion from the 911 base."

Either way - 'mid engine' keeps coming up, tho.

Spyderidol

Yes, I'm not sure it will be a "mid-engined 911" per say, but it certainly looks like a mid-engined "something" is in the fray.