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Old 08-04-2008, 10:42 AM
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Poser.
Old 08-04-2008, 10:45 AM
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Pardon my ignorance but what's wrong with the Tequipment bar?
I like the sunroof delete though!
Old 08-04-2008, 01:11 PM
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It offers no protection.
Old 08-04-2008, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by earlyapex
Poser.
unless you're getting paid to race for a living I would not be so quick to call out another on the "poser" tag
Old 08-04-2008, 02:02 PM
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Looks ok to me.
Old 08-04-2008, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by earlyapex
It offers no protection.
That's an absolute!

I think it offers plenty of protection for the casual driver and will surely assist in a simple roll-over; track days and racing, well that's another story for sure! An playing devils advocate, some will say the TE piece, or any for that matter, is a BAD thing on a street car because of the extra damage it can cause to the chasis/body/frame in a street accident (getting t-boned for instance); it puts too much pressure on the wrong parts of the car.
Old 08-04-2008, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by danpic
That's an absolute!

I think it offers plenty of protection for the casual driver and will surely assist in a simple roll-over; track days and racing, well that's another story for sure! An playing devils advocate, some will say the TE piece, or any for that matter, is a BAD thing on a street car because of the extra damage it can cause to the chasis/body/frame in a street accident (getting t-boned for instance); it puts too much pressure on the wrong parts of the car.
+1. PAG designed the TE bar to offer substantially more protection than none. It's the only bar i know of that has been crash/roll tested. Although one could make the argument welded roll bars designed akin to that of Cup cars have been crashed tested in race crashes. Regardless i know there has been a lot of discussion surrounding the "faulty" seat belt mounting points of the TE bar but keep in mind the bolts used to fasten the bar in require ~22,000lb of pressure to sheer. Now i'm not physicists but it i think it would take quite the roll to sheer those bolts.
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I don't understand why he just didn't get a Cup...he spent enough for the GT3 and he mods.
Old 08-04-2008, 06:23 PM
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I assume he wants to keep it street legal?!
Old 08-04-2008, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by cfjan
I assume he wants to keep it street legal?!
that steering wheel is not DOT Kosher and not technically legal
Old 08-04-2008, 07:05 PM
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Well you all should not get so nit pickey. This gent has a 996 gt3 and this 997 gt3 and they ware both set up and fast. I have also seen a 997 GT3 street car barrel roll 4 times before it came to rest on its wheels. The rolling car did the first two rolls with only an occational corner of the car touching the ground. No bar of any kind was in that car. A tech-equipment bar could only help and not hurt safety.

Neither of his cars see anything but track.
Old 08-04-2008, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by allegretto
I don't understand why he just didn't get a Cup...he spent enough for the GT3 and he mods.

Mr. John Carey built a Cup car out of a base GT3, and I believe it cost him less than just buying a Cup car. He sure seems to know what he is doing, is sponsored, and seems to have a well sorted Cup car. But I really don't know jack about race cars.
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Originally Posted by 340Elise
Mr. John Carey built a Cup car out of a base GT3, and I believe it cost him less than just buying a Cup car. He sure seems to know what he is doing, is sponsored, and seems to have a well sorted Cup car. But I really don't know jack about race cars.
Dunno, but I think if you take a base GT3 and add all the components for a Cup you or I will spend much more money than a Cup to do it.

The differences between a Cup and a GT3 are considerably more than was noted

But hey, I don't know everything either.

I do know that discussions with folks who know much more than me has caused me to drop any consideration of a GT3 or RS (though I have dreams about GT3 Nut's black on black) and I am very close to moving on a 7Cup.
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Originally Posted by 340Elise
Mr. John Carey built a Cup car out of a base GT3, and I believe it cost him less than just buying a Cup car. He sure seems to know what he is doing, is sponsored, and seems to have a well sorted Cup car. But I really don't know jack about race cars.
Curious if during the conversion the M97 was swapped out and an M64/GT1 lump put in its place.
Old 08-04-2008, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 340Elise
Mr. John Carey built a Cup car out of a base GT3, and I believe it cost him less than just buying a Cup car. He sure seems to know what he is doing, is sponsored, and seems to have a well sorted Cup car. But I really don't know jack about race cars.
His car has a bigger wing, wider front and rear end, better front aero, and a 3.8 when compared to a Cup. It seems his car is closer now to an FIA GT3 Cup S race car than a mere Cup spec car.

Edit: never mind, I know there are two crazy modified GT3s on the board, I think I'm talking about one and you're talking about the other.


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