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Old 07-08-2008, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
2007 GT3 prices on ebay are $110-130.
there are alot of nice white 997 GT3 examples on ebay.

2004-2005 GT3 prices are $60-80 on ebay etc.
Yes but I have not seen any of those 997 cars sell, and bids have not even come close to those "buy it now" prices.
Old 07-08-2008, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RonCT
Umm, are you guys saying 996 GT3s are in the mid $40k range now by saying there's a $50k differential? I just bought a 2007 with CPO (very light option) for mid $90's which compares with 996s I was finding in the $70's. For $20k and several more years of warranty coverage it was a very easy decision.

I haven't owned a 996 in any flavor but I will say I was very impressed with the 997 and it wildly exceeded my expectations (owned a 997S prior). Suspension was extremely good on both street and track (500 mile drive home from delivery dealership). Friends that have driven my car that own 996 GT3s were extremely impressed and as 3 basically said "What is in this thing, it pulls like a freight train and just keeps pulling..."
Not sure, but I may have inquired and spoken to the owner of your car a few months ago when I was looking. Looks like you got a GREAT price on it if it's the one I'm thinking of. At least when compared to what was being asked for it, and what others are getting for their cars relative to MSRP.
Old 07-08-2008, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RonCT
I just bought a 2007 with CPO (very light option) for mid $90's which compares with 996s I was finding in the $70's. For $20k and several more years of warranty coverage it was a very easy decision.
Interesting. This is the second car discussed in the forum that transacted in the mid $90s (unless it's the same car). If prices are indeed trending down to this range, the 6GT3 will start making less sense unless it too trends down into the $50k range. There is certainly a greater number of 7GT3s for sale on autotrader/cars.com compared to a few months ago.
Old 07-08-2008, 11:50 AM
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I have followed prices (asking) in ebay and autotrader for 997 Gt3s and turbos for the last 6 months and my observation is that Gt3s are slowly going down and turbos are very solid at current levels. But I have not seen any 997 GT3 below 100K. This is just my impression...I may be wrong, of course. If I find a gt3 available for below $100K (not crashed, of course) I would make the upgrade from my 997S. Oh wait, my wife has twins on the way...I guess I would have to keep dreaming.
Old 07-08-2008, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RonCT
Umm, are you guys saying 996 GT3s are in the mid $40k range now by saying there's a $50k differential? I just bought a 2007 with CPO (very light option) for mid $90's which compares with 996s I was finding in the $70's. For $20k and several more years of warranty coverage it was a very easy decision.

I haven't owned a 996 in any flavor but I will say I was very impressed with the 997 and it wildly exceeded my expectations (owned a 997S prior). Suspension was extremely good on both street and track (500 mile drive home from delivery dealership). Friends that have driven my car that own 996 GT3s were extremely impressed and as 3 basically said "What is in this thing, it pulls like a freight train and just keeps pulling..."
Sounds like you got a great deal. When I decided to sell the Cup car and the RS was already gone, I figured I would look for a 997 GT3 for under $100K. I didn't see any, but I didn't look real hard.
I would have searched more if I didn't make a deal within a few days of thinking about it to trade my Cup and cash for another RS.
Old 07-08-2008, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GT3 Nut
What is this based on? The 997 does not have nannies to keep you in line. TC can be turned off completely. It does NOT have PSM or any stability management. And TC does nothing to keep you in line. I KNOW this from experience in both cars.
The 997 is easier to drive on the street and yes the 996 is more "raw". But as most have pointed out, the faster car is based on the better driver. Equal drivers - 997 has a slight edge, but as mooty said it is very small.
My mistake. I thought the 7 GT3's TC worked close to that of PSM. If it doesnt help keep you in a straight line what is it good for? Launch control.

To my understanding in the hands of equal drivers the 7 GT3 has nearly a second on the 6?

Originally Posted by GT3 Nut
I think most guys who have a 996 and maybe can't afford or justify the higher price of a 997 keep telling themselves they are a better driver because they don't have any "nannies" to save them. Give me a break.If the car will be a daily driver - get 997. It is more liveable on the street. But they are both STREET cars. Either car is fantastic! You will LOVE either one.
Not at all. I was simply saying, if you dont have much track experience it might be nice to have the TC there "just in case." But that was under the assumption that the 7's TC does more than i thought...
Old 07-08-2008, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by carn3rd

To my understanding in the hands of equal drivers the 7 GT3 has nearly a second on the 6?
depends on the track, after all, the 7gt3 has 30 more hp...
Old 07-08-2008, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by carn3rd
My mistake. I thought the 7 GT3's TC worked close to that of PSM. If it doesnt help keep you in a straight line what is it good for? Launch
my impression is that the electronic brake bias/ABS really still acts to provide stability and is not defeatable. That is why alot of people still cook their rear brakes unintentionally at the track
Old 07-09-2008, 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by RonCT
Umm, are you guys saying 996 GT3s are in the mid $40k range now by saying there's a $50k differential? I just bought a 2007 with CPO (very light option) for mid $90's which compares with 996s I was finding in the $70's. For $20k and several more years of warranty coverage it was a very easy decision.
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wow, you got a 7GT3 for 90k, you are lucky, way lucky.
lowest optioned 7gt3 = 106k or so.
most sub 5k mile cars are selling at msrp or 10k above
let's call it 110 then, but most of the cars i see changing hands are at 115 or higher. and i have helped locate and sold 8 of these cars in past 6-8 months (i am not a broker, i just like looking at them for my friends)

6gt3 can be had at 70-75k

delta is 45 or so.

but at 90k, i would take 7gt3 over 6 no brainer.
Old 07-09-2008, 08:35 AM
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I did say mid $90s and it was a very low option car with 7k miles. Perfect condition, checked out fully (DME), CPO, the works. In my search I looked seriously at about 6 cars, all with low options, and none of them were above MSRP.
Old 07-09-2008, 12:16 PM
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Perhaps the banking crisis is affecting the NY/Tri-state area more than other parts of the country. Such regional disparity should not be surprising...

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Old 07-09-2008, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mooty
i have both.
997 is the better and faster car, period.
but it's not 50k USD better (not sure price delta in newfoundland).
so if you are willing to splurge, buy 997, if not, 996.
they are very close in performance. whichever GT3 has the better driver will be the faster car.
I agree 100% 7 is better but I already had a 996 GT3 and did not want to go through the effort to switch. I am not a MSRP + guy. The 997GT3 is a very cool car. White is the fastest
Old 07-09-2008, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by eclou
my impression is that the electronic brake bias/ABS really still acts to provide stability and is not defeatable. That is why alot of people still cook their rear brakes unintentionally at the track
Huh. GT3 Nut can you explain what the TC does compared to PSM?
Old 07-09-2008, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by eclou
my impression is that the electronic brake bias/ABS really still acts to provide stability and is not defeatable. That is why alot of people still cook their rear brakes unintentionally at the track
This is my understanding, also. 997GT3/RS has all the components of PSM -- TC, ABD, ASR and MSR functionality -- effectively PSM.

One thing the 996GT3 could have done with is better ABS.
Old 07-10-2008, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MetalSolid
This is my understanding, also. 997GT3/RS has all the components of PSM -- TC, ABD, ASR and MSR functionality -- effectively PSM.

One thing the 996GT3 could have done with is better ABS.
you sir are correct in both fronts...however the 996 is a closer stepping stone to an actual cup car because of this!


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