GT3 vs V8 M3
11-28-2007, 07:10 AM
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A few years back, when I still owned my MkI GT3, I did a BMW track day at Kyalami in both an M3 and M3CSL. The M3 certainly was good but felt nothing like the GT3. The CSL was fantastic - a big step up from the M3 on the track, and more similar to the GT3. But it too was no GT3. And my current 996 RS easily walks all of them.
11-28-2007, 01:11 PM
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Porsche doesn't build a car that compares with the E92 M3. For that matter, the only other cars in the front-engine, rear-drive, manual-trans, four-seat, two-door category are the G37, 612 Scaglietti, and Mustang. If we double the door count and driven wheels, we can add RS4 and S4. Obviously slim pickins.
We can go on about the 997's inherent superiority, but no matter how you cut it (pardon the pun), you can't fit a bicycle, two people, and lots of stuff inside a 911 without removing both wheels. The E92 M3 is meant to be a fast, comfortable street car with sporting pretensions. For someone who needs the interior space, the M3 is the only player in the market at that price point.
We can go on about the 997's inherent superiority, but no matter how you cut it (pardon the pun), you can't fit a bicycle, two people, and lots of stuff inside a 911 without removing both wheels. The E92 M3 is meant to be a fast, comfortable street car with sporting pretensions. For someone who needs the interior space, the M3 is the only player in the market at that price point.
11-28-2007, 01:52 PM
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If you're refering to the Nissan Skyline GT-R and its famous lap around the Nürburgring it has a few question marks regarding it. So I think we'll have to wait for Auto Motor und Sport to confirm its performance.
11-28-2007, 03:37 PM
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I posted the video mostly just because I thought it was cool, I didn't actually think the M would have much of a chance. I am cross shopping the m3 and the S though and I have to honestly tell you that I change my mind every day. A v8 M3 is a freaky little car, it's gonna rip. I think right now classic lines and exclusivity are the only + for the p-car.
Either car will be my daily.
Oh, what to do.
Either car will be my daily.
Oh, what to do.
11-28-2007, 04:16 PM
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GT-R rear seats don't fold down. This is a deal-breaker for anyone looking for a versatile street car. I agree that the GT-R is a competitor to the E92 M3, but at around +400lbs and AWD and forced induction, the driving experience between the two cars is vastly different.
11-28-2007, 04:43 PM
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I posted the video mostly just because I thought it was cool, I didn't actually think the M would have much of a chance. I am cross shopping the m3 and the S though and I have to honestly tell you that I change my mind every day. A v8 M3 is a freaky little car, it's gonna rip. I think right now classic lines and exclusivity are the only + for the p-car.
Either car will be my daily.
Oh, what to do.
Either car will be my daily.
Oh, what to do.
That said, the M3 is probably better bang for your buck. But there's just something about how a 911 feels in your hands... And the 997C2S is a particularly good one.
12-05-2007, 12:22 AM
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I posted the video mostly just because I thought it was cool, I didn't actually think the M would have much of a chance. I am cross shopping the m3 and the S though and I have to honestly tell you that I change my mind every day. A v8 M3 is a freaky little car, it's gonna rip. I think right now classic lines and exclusivity are the only + for the p-car.
Either car will be my daily.
Oh, what to do.
Either car will be my daily.
Oh, what to do.
12-05-2007, 05:31 PM
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M3s have their uses. As was pointed up above you have a ton of utility with a car that drives better than 99 percent of other road legal cars.
Of course the GT3 is better as a performance car. Duh!
My daily driver is an E46 M3 and I am having a blast every time I drive it. And that includes snow. I could never do that with a GT3.
When I used the M3 as a track car I used the interior space as a trailer substitute. I would put 4 track wheels, jack, toolbox, helmet, 2 folding chairs all in the car when going to the track. Porsche drivers would not believe me when I told them that all the stuff laid out on the tarp goes back into the car at the end of the event. And the car was not that slow on the track, either. Not a GT3 but a GT3 would have to be driven properly to walk away from me. My M3 wasn't purely stock. Suspension, brakes and tires were replaced. But completely stock power.
The Audis are nice too but I don't want the Quattro system.
Vettes are great but have less utility than a Porsche.
The Japanese cars in this segment are all turboed and I am not a plumber by trade to make sense of all the hoses in their engine bays. I prefer NA engines.
But on the track the GT3 is a lot more fun and this is why I have it. But if I couldn't afford a GT3 I would stay with the M3 and would still be very happy.
Of course the GT3 is better as a performance car. Duh!
My daily driver is an E46 M3 and I am having a blast every time I drive it. And that includes snow. I could never do that with a GT3.
When I used the M3 as a track car I used the interior space as a trailer substitute. I would put 4 track wheels, jack, toolbox, helmet, 2 folding chairs all in the car when going to the track. Porsche drivers would not believe me when I told them that all the stuff laid out on the tarp goes back into the car at the end of the event. And the car was not that slow on the track, either. Not a GT3 but a GT3 would have to be driven properly to walk away from me. My M3 wasn't purely stock. Suspension, brakes and tires were replaced. But completely stock power.
The Audis are nice too but I don't want the Quattro system.
Vettes are great but have less utility than a Porsche.
The Japanese cars in this segment are all turboed and I am not a plumber by trade to make sense of all the hoses in their engine bays. I prefer NA engines.
But on the track the GT3 is a lot more fun and this is why I have it. But if I couldn't afford a GT3 I would stay with the M3 and would still be very happy.
