ebanzero

Just wondering if anyone has been able to order an 08 GT3 RS for MSRP? It seems that the 08's are going to command a higher premium than the 07's since they will be last year of production. Porsche really screwed the 07 owners, me included, by extending the production run. And, what's worse, it that the dealers are the ones going to profit from it. Since they are only going to be getting one 08 at best, they are probably going to sell it to the highest bidder for 40 to 50 over list. It would be nice to see some customers getting them at msrp.

OldGuy

I dont think the 08s are going to go higher than the 07's-the guys who HAD to have them at 75K and over have theirs now. The market is slowing and there have been several here that have sold in the 20K and less. The silver with orange trim is really slowing down. One was on ebay yesterday with 1 day left at $130K less than MSRP. If I wanted a RS at close to MSRP now (an 07) I would look hard at the silver issue.
I am sure there are some customers that have their 08s at MSRP. The way I understand it they all have to be sold at MSRP then the buyer sells it back to the dealer THEN he makes his 40-50K over price.

ebanzero

Actually I think that a guy that did not buy one yet, and is willing to pay 20 to 25 over, which is where the market on 07's is right now, would be willing to pay another 15 to have the 08 instead. The last year of a production run always sells for more than the year before. Sure there are those that just want the car to track or drive and they will take an 07. But those who have to have the newest will pay more. As far as the dealer having to sell the car at msrp and then buy it back to resell, I know of many cases where the dealers have sold the cars for over list the first time out.

Alan Smithee

No, they did not.

Flying Finn

At least the dealer(s) who didn't try to screw people over with higher than MSRP prices on '07s, sold '08s for MSRP.

And I agree with OG.

+1 How did the dealer screwed '07 owners? Are they obliged to do only one year run if you buy one? Are are they required to tell their intentions to you? Or?

BTW, you can't say Porsche "extended" the production run when it was planned (although not published to general public) to be '07 & '08 from the beginning.

OldGuy

There is no mecahnical or cosmetic difference in RS so an 08 with no miles is only marginally more attractive than a 08 with no miles.

Alan Smithee

It would only make a difference to a short-term flipper.

Over time, I imagine the (apparently now available) classic and slightly more subtle white/blue and white/red color schemes will have more of a positive effect on resale value than model year.

OldGuy

Alan
I agree

Freddie

I may be niave, but I thought that porsche dealers are prohibitted from selling over MSRP. I think the finance guy at my dealership told me that.

Makes since to me, that is why they have MSRP.

YA911Fan

Legally, the dealer is an independent entity from the manufacturer and cannot be compelled to charge a particular price. Hence the S in MSRP.

Porsche could "gently coerce" the dealers to stick to an MSRP limit via the allocation mechanism but as long as the dealers are bringing home the bacon, why not keep the dealers happy. Customers be damned...

Freddie

I would argue that it should be porsche that should raise the MSRP then, not the dealers.

Porsche wants to capture long term clients, distinguish itself from Ferrari, and be legitimate. I think dealers selling over MSRP is kind of sleazy.

I am sure that there is a contract between them which limits abuse of the MSRP. Porsche could retaliate by restricting allocations or worse, revoking the dealership.

smlporsche

What I have seen locally is the dealer principal buying the car personally then selling it as a "used" car with just delivery miles on it for a premium and never having left the showroom.
Slight of hand but that's what I've seen...

Alan Smithee

I don't. For every GT3RS they sell at over MSRP, they sell 50 Boxsters/Caymen/Cayennes/Carreras at under MSRP. It's called supply and demand, and that's the way the free market economy works.

Now, if a dealer agrees to sell a car to a buyer at MSRP and renegs because somebody is waving more money at him, that's a different story.

G car

Ordered 08 RS, Oct. production at MSRP. No mark up and plan to keep it.

OldGuy

G When did you order it and where (dont have to give us the dealer but state maybe city
would be cool)