GT3RS ROW seats
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Originally Posted by khaug
The issue, as I see it, is why GT3 customers ($106K+) are forced to replace OE seats with seats that will accommodate 6-point harnesses!.
PCNA, you haven't done your homework! No way should your customers be forced to pay big bucks for aftermarket seats just to accommodate PCA track requirements, (harness slots and crotch strap slots). And, on top of the totally inept seating requirements, you're forced to discard the air bags in the stock "sport" seats when you replace the OE seats with aftermarket seats!
Porsche marketing, you've really dropped the ball here! This oughta be grounds for a bunch of Class-action suits!
PCNA, you haven't done your homework! No way should your customers be forced to pay big bucks for aftermarket seats just to accommodate PCA track requirements, (harness slots and crotch strap slots). And, on top of the totally inept seating requirements, you're forced to discard the air bags in the stock "sport" seats when you replace the OE seats with aftermarket seats!
Porsche marketing, you've really dropped the ball here! This oughta be grounds for a bunch of Class-action suits!
The issue really is that PCNA sells the cars at 'bargain basement' prices compared to the rest of the world. Something has to give, sure this discount is hugely subsidised by the skilful use of derivatives and FX operations. PAG does several things to maintain margins on cars for PCNA, including semi-standardised specifications (compared with Germany), and 'cost effective' options.
If fitting seats which can be used with 5 or 6 point harnesses as well as the standard 3 point retracting, not only would the seats be comparatively expensive, and not track friendly (too easily movable fore and aft with electric adjustment), but a harness bar would have to be fitted as well, more cost!
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Originally Posted by Carrera GT
I think black/black is a rock solid choice. While you're nowhere near in the hunt for a 599 until you build up the history, getting a new car at $40K over isn't such a bad proposition and I'm sure there are guys with their history 355's and 360's wondering why they've gone through multiples of that premium and still waiting for their 430. At least you can be reasonably assured of most of that premium now carrying forward to your next one. Even if this is your first and last, you're not doing so badly and will recoup much of that spread.
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Robin - Are the euro seats different than the euro GT3 seats I buy from Gert? I find them very comfortable. Yes, there are a few people who cannot sit in my car, but that's their problem. I am aware of pilot seats as well as the fact that cockpit ergonomics have changed to deal with the fact that modern day pilots are larger than they were years ago. That is not to say less fit, rather they are taller and proportionately larger in all dimensions.
Karl - my take on PCNA is that they don't want us to track our cars.
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Karl - my take on PCNA is that they don't want us to track our cars.
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Originally Posted by Nordschleife
Bob
...it was blindingly obvious that the seats we were using would not suit larger and taller Americans, or even Canadians.
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...it was blindingly obvious that the seats we were using would not suit larger and taller Americans, or even Canadians.
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Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau
Robin - Are the euro seats different than the euro GT3 seats I buy from Gert?
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I don't 'know', but I think so. At one stage several models of the seats came in 3 different sizes for different sized people. According to the people at Zuffenhausen, switching from electrical to manually adjustable seats lets the seat be lowered 2 1/2 inches. They actually had some fitments for the 996 cars that made this simpler to implement, depending on the seat involved.
What struck me with the 997 was the 'lack' of shoulder room, I put this down to the way the seats were mounted in the car, as I am under 150 lbs and my co driver under 160 lbs, both 5'8" - 5'9" it was surprising.
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Originally Posted by khaug
The issue, as I see it, is why GT3 customers ($106K+) are forced to replace OE seats with seats that will accommodate 6-point harnesses!.
PCNA, you haven't done your homework! No way should your customers be forced to pay big bucks for aftermarket seats just to accommodate PCA track requirements, (harness slots and crotch strap slots). And, on top of the totally inept seating requirements, you're forced to discard the air bags in the stock "sport" seats when you replace the OE seats with aftermarket seats!
Porsche maketing, you've really dropped the ball here! This oughta be grounds for a bunch of Class-action suits!
PCNA, you haven't done your homework! No way should your customers be forced to pay big bucks for aftermarket seats just to accommodate PCA track requirements, (harness slots and crotch strap slots). And, on top of the totally inept seating requirements, you're forced to discard the air bags in the stock "sport" seats when you replace the OE seats with aftermarket seats!
Porsche maketing, you've really dropped the ball here! This oughta be grounds for a bunch of Class-action suits!
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Originally Posted by CWay27
^applies only when you're green cause after that, you ain't suppose to have passenger.
Also anyone can benefit from an instructor riding with them once in a while.
And instructors giving rides are obviously subject to the same rule.
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As kinda of the keeper of the rules in the local region, here's the facts in Rennsport:
1) All cars used at DE must have two seats.
2) Driver and Passenger require equal restraint.
3) Use of a harness with a seat not having locating holes for the shoulder straps is allowed but occupants must wear the OEM three point belt over the harness.
Cway - you might indeed have a passenger - an instructor who may ride with you for a variety of reasons:
- flaggers observe that you are having a hard time.
- you go wheels off or spin (corrective action)
- you ask for help (the best reason).
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1) All cars used at DE must have two seats.
2) Driver and Passenger require equal restraint.
3) Use of a harness with a seat not having locating holes for the shoulder straps is allowed but occupants must wear the OEM three point belt over the harness.
Cway - you might indeed have a passenger - an instructor who may ride with you for a variety of reasons:
- flaggers observe that you are having a hard time.
- you go wheels off or spin (corrective action)
- you ask for help (the best reason).
Best,
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Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau
Cway - you might indeed have a passenger - an instructor who may ride with you for a variety of reasons:
- flaggers observe that you are having a hard time.
- you go wheels off or spin (corrective action)
- you ask for help (the best reason).
Best,
- flaggers observe that you are having a hard time.
- you go wheels off or spin (corrective action)
- you ask for help (the best reason).
Best,
Hey Chris, I'll stay green for as long as it takes.......
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Originally Posted by amaist
Not true. How are you going to get check out rides?
Also anyone can benefit from an instructor riding with them once in a while.
And instructors giving rides are obviously subject to the same rule.
Also anyone can benefit from an instructor riding with them once in a while.
And instructors giving rides are obviously subject to the same rule.
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