997gt2 news
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997gt2 news
read on rennteam that someone in the uk was contacted by porsche with the information that the gt2 will be annouced next month (jan. '07) as a 2008 model to start shipping in sept. '07.
he was also told to expect booklets, specs, and a request for deposit next month (jan. '07)
he was also told to expect booklets, specs, and a request for deposit next month (jan. '07)
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maybe no sunroof, maybe our pleas were heard, the 997 GT2 based on the wide body like the RS also given the price I cant imagine them not offering customers what they really want
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Originally Posted by dark knight
maybe no sunroof, maybe our pleas were heard, the 997 GT2 based on the wide body like the RS also given the price I cant imagine them not offering customers what they really want
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Originally Posted by JUSTIN.
GT3 RS will be a better choice.
But since it will have a damn hole, if I ever get a new one, it will be the holeless RS.
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The 997 GT2 is the only Porsche I would consider as a serious upgrade to my car. The 997 GT3/GT3 RS are not a match for my car.
The 997 GT2 with a 400 lbs weight reduction, the RS rollbar, and ECU tuning could be a great car. The new 997 GT3 RSR (485 Hp and 2,700 lbs) is the fastest 911 currently made. A 2,800 lbs 997 GT2 with 600Hp and a suspension like the one on my car right now, could get close to the 997 RSR performance.
Hopefully, no sunroof.
The 997 GT2 with a 400 lbs weight reduction, the RS rollbar, and ECU tuning could be a great car. The new 997 GT3 RSR (485 Hp and 2,700 lbs) is the fastest 911 currently made. A 2,800 lbs 997 GT2 with 600Hp and a suspension like the one on my car right now, could get close to the 997 RSR performance.
Hopefully, no sunroof.
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
The 997 GT2 is the only Porsche I would consider as a serious upgrade to my car. The 997 GT3/GT3 RS are not a match for my car.
Let's watch the race results next year to see which chassis dominates!
And in the future the the 998 series will blow the doors of the 997, it's tough to stop evolution!
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It amazes me when owners that own 996 GT3s cut down 997 based GT cars. I agree that the financial hit one would encounter selling thieir 996 GT3 to buy the new car would be a consideration as the increase in performance would probably not be worth it to many. If one had also poured money into an older car to improve its performance, this would only add to the pain of upgrading. Never the less, as for the "superior 996 GT3 " mentioned , if the mods done to it were done to a 997 based GT3, the later car would be undoubtedly be faster................... and look much better doing it!...............IMHO of course! As for the new GT2, if it comes..................it too will be the superior turbo car for the track........just like the last one was. I had a 03 GT2 and loved it...................but given the choice, I personally have opted for 1 997 tt with my white,blk RS coming in Spring. Now if they could only loose the turbo motor and put a RSR motor in the new GT2, now thats what I,m talking about!
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I am not interested in sunroof, I have a BMW for that.
A car that Porsche spent countless engineering hours nad R&D money to lighten up should not have a damn hole at the worst possible location on the car to bling it out for the American market with powered cupholders.
Until the sunroof issue gets resolved, I will hang on to my no PSM, no PTM, no AWD, and no TC GT2.
A car that Porsche spent countless engineering hours nad R&D money to lighten up should not have a damn hole at the worst possible location on the car to bling it out for the American market with powered cupholders.
Until the sunroof issue gets resolved, I will hang on to my no PSM, no PTM, no AWD, and no TC GT2.
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I'm with Stuka on this one. The last Gt cars (sans sunroof,PSM,TC,AWD) offer a primal approach and feel we will likely not see again from Porsche. I'd suggest that those that have them should hold on to their GT2's.
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The only problem I see with modifying a 997 GT3/GT3 RS with similar changes to the ones on my car, is that at this point there is no data on the actual improvement from those modifications. It takes time and testing, and not just money to improve any car. The RS arrives next year, and it will need about a year of development by American tuners to get it right. Manthey and RUF are already working on the 997 GT3/GT3 RS.
My car took about two years to be at the level of current development. It beats the RS by 0.4 secs on the 1/4 mile (probably more right now), it weighs about 300 lbs less, it has an even wider track than the 997 GT3 RS both front and rear, it has a better transmission for the tracks in the NorthEast, and a suspension with no compromise. It's a much easier car to drive and more comfortable than stock.
I doubt a 997 GT3 RS with sticky tires can get within 2 secs of my best proven lap time at a local track (Pocono Racetrack).
So, compared to my car, and from a pure performance perspective, I don't consider the 997 GT3 RS a far superior car. Compared to a stock 996 GT3 I consider the 997 GT3 RS a marginally better car, keep in mind that I'm writing about actual performance.
From the looks perspective, I like the new car better. From the easier to drive perspective (comfort perspective), the new car seems to be better. Personally, if I want better look and comfort, I would go Ferrari.
There are plenty of Race results from two full seasons of the Porsche SuperCup with the 997, to compare against the 996. At some tracks the 997 GT3 Cup was just a few tenths faster, and at some other tracks more than 2 sec faster. However, from 2000 to 2004 (996-series) the times were dropping every year as well, by a similar margin. Although the 997 is allowed to use PCCB and the Sequential transmission, it has not shown to be a far superior race car. Keep in mind that tires are improved every year, that counts.
At the 24 hours of Daytona this year, the 996 GT3 Cup beat the 997 GT3 Cup. At the final Speed WCGT race at Laguna Seca, the 997 GT3 Cup (Ricardo Imery - Jon Groom Racing) lost to the 996 GT3 Cup on a drag race finish.
A street 997 GT3 RS with the setup level of my car will be faster, but so much work for a few tenths of a second is not worth it.
My preference for the 997 GT2 is that such car will evolve a lot from the 996 GT2, by taking advantage of the development done by Porsche on the 996 GT3 Mk2 (developed after the 996 GT2), then 996 GT3 RS, then 997 GT3, and finally 997 GT3 RS. I strongly believe, that a 997 GT2 running at 2,800 lbs, with the right suspension and 600Hp will be faster than any stock GT3 Cup, while still being a street car. I like the idea.
Indianapolis Results from 2000-2006 for the Porsche SuperCup
My car took about two years to be at the level of current development. It beats the RS by 0.4 secs on the 1/4 mile (probably more right now), it weighs about 300 lbs less, it has an even wider track than the 997 GT3 RS both front and rear, it has a better transmission for the tracks in the NorthEast, and a suspension with no compromise. It's a much easier car to drive and more comfortable than stock.
I doubt a 997 GT3 RS with sticky tires can get within 2 secs of my best proven lap time at a local track (Pocono Racetrack).
So, compared to my car, and from a pure performance perspective, I don't consider the 997 GT3 RS a far superior car. Compared to a stock 996 GT3 I consider the 997 GT3 RS a marginally better car, keep in mind that I'm writing about actual performance.
From the looks perspective, I like the new car better. From the easier to drive perspective (comfort perspective), the new car seems to be better. Personally, if I want better look and comfort, I would go Ferrari.
There are plenty of Race results from two full seasons of the Porsche SuperCup with the 997, to compare against the 996. At some tracks the 997 GT3 Cup was just a few tenths faster, and at some other tracks more than 2 sec faster. However, from 2000 to 2004 (996-series) the times were dropping every year as well, by a similar margin. Although the 997 is allowed to use PCCB and the Sequential transmission, it has not shown to be a far superior race car. Keep in mind that tires are improved every year, that counts.
At the 24 hours of Daytona this year, the 996 GT3 Cup beat the 997 GT3 Cup. At the final Speed WCGT race at Laguna Seca, the 997 GT3 Cup (Ricardo Imery - Jon Groom Racing) lost to the 996 GT3 Cup on a drag race finish.
A street 997 GT3 RS with the setup level of my car will be faster, but so much work for a few tenths of a second is not worth it.
My preference for the 997 GT2 is that such car will evolve a lot from the 996 GT2, by taking advantage of the development done by Porsche on the 996 GT3 Mk2 (developed after the 996 GT2), then 996 GT3 RS, then 997 GT3, and finally 997 GT3 RS. I strongly believe, that a 997 GT2 running at 2,800 lbs, with the right suspension and 600Hp will be faster than any stock GT3 Cup, while still being a street car. I like the idea.
Indianapolis Results from 2000-2006 for the Porsche SuperCup
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2800 lbs GT2 coming from porsche is unlikely 996 GT2 was 3100-3200 lbs range so i expect the same trend.. the extra cost ( i guess 190-200K) may not be worth it relative to a GT3/RS IMO