GT3 facts and sunroof considerations
11-30-2006, 10:05 PM
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On second thoughts it must have been Tremblant, and we really have to get you to Mosport next year. Calabogie is a nice change and with the week end events you'll see more of me apart from waving from the other side of the street,,,,,sans cedar hedge 
There is at least a good restaurant in Bowmanville now 
There is at least a good restaurant in Bowmanville now
11-30-2006, 10:06 PM
#77
On second thoughts it must have been Tremblant, and we really have to get you to Mosport next year. Calabogie is a nice change and with the week end events you'll see more of me apart from waving from the other side of the street,,,,,sans cedar hedge There is at least a good restaurant in Bowmanville now
There is at least a good restaurant in Bowmanville now
11-30-2006, 10:06 PM
#78
On second thoughts it must have been Tremblant, and we really have to get you to Mosport next year. Calabogie is a nice change and with the week end events you'll see more of me apart from waving from the other side of the street,,,,,sans cedar hedge There is at least a good restaurant in Bowmanville now
There is at least a good restaurant in Bowmanville now
11-30-2006, 10:06 PM
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On second thoughts it must have been Tremblant, and we really have to get you to Mosport next year. Calabogie is a nice change and with the week end events you'll see more of me apart from waving from the other side of the street,,,,,sans cedar hedge There is at least a good restaurant in Bowmanville now
There is at least a good restaurant in Bowmanville now
11-30-2006, 10:39 PM
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Ron one of my students from DE got one of the first ones about a month ago. The 997 GT3 is a significant improvement over ours. Nicer clutch, gearbox, suspension and the noise... the noise!
11-30-2006, 10:41 PM
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We will have 8 events, 5 LCMT and 3 at Calabogie. I like Calabogie .. nice change. Mosport is a pain to get to and too few corners
11-30-2006, 10:59 PM
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Bob, what color did you end up going with for your RS?
997 GT3 a worthwhile improvement over the 996 GT3? THe guards red 997 GT3 posted on here a few days ago looks mightly tempting, especially when I put on over 1/2 my milage on track. I'm interested to hear what you and Keith think about it.
997 GT3 a worthwhile improvement over the 996 GT3? THe guards red 997 GT3 posted on here a few days ago looks mightly tempting, especially when I put on over 1/2 my milage on track. I'm interested to hear what you and Keith think about it.
12-02-2006, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by frayed
they got fooked on lexan by the DOT
Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau
As to ..., lexan windows ..., thank our law makers for that. They can't be certified here
01-25-2007, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau
Frayed - I am curious. Why do you disregard Porsche's official stance? It was about 18 months ago when PAG announced that all 997's would have a sun roof because they refused to undergo crash tests simply because they provided a more rigid roof structure. Sounds like they objected "on principle".
If it is true that sunroof/no sunroof cars each have to be separately crash tested, that would mean some sort of waiver/exemption must be in place for the RS. If that's true, I couldn't find it on DOT's search of its docket.
Anyone have have a copy?
01-25-2007, 05:42 PM
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maybe try http://www.nhtsa.gov/ ?
edit: maybe this? http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/stan...Regs/index.htm
edit: maybe this? http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/stan...Regs/index.htm
01-25-2007, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by frayed
You know, I was thinking about this some more in light of the RS allocation speculation.
If it is true that sunroof/no sunroof cars each have to be separately crash tested, that would mean some sort of waiver/exemption must be in place for the RS. If that's true, I couldn't find it on DOT's search of its docket.
Anyone have have a copy?
If it is true that sunroof/no sunroof cars each have to be separately crash tested, that would mean some sort of waiver/exemption must be in place for the RS. If that's true, I couldn't find it on DOT's search of its docket.
Anyone have have a copy?
Secondly, remember the only reason (IMO) that US GT3's come with a sunroof with no sunroof delete option is so that the US RS can be 44lbs lighter.
Since PCNA could not bring an RS into NA with the carbon seats it had to find another way of making the car lighter than the GT3. How do you make a car lighter? Easy, you make the other car you are comparing it to heavier. I'm convinced that's why the GT3 has the sunroof.
01-25-2007, 06:07 PM
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I agree with you RR. It's been my contention all along that the sunroof in the GT3 is for purposes of model differentiation, not any of this horse**** excuse about crash testing.
Accordingly, I think the RS was seperately crash tested or did not need to be b/c of the chassis similarity with other models.
If I'm right, then there's no constraint on 2008 RSs due to crash testing.
Accordingly, I think the RS was seperately crash tested or did not need to be b/c of the chassis similarity with other models.
If I'm right, then there's no constraint on 2008 RSs due to crash testing.
01-25-2007, 06:15 PM
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I agree, I don't think there is constraint on quantites of the RS sold into the US other than the re-tooling possibility that takes place at the factory for August 2007 supposedly.
I do think that initially Porsche decided to bring only a set limit of cars, cars that they had bonafide orders for. The reason I think that is when I switched my order from a GT3 to the RS, my dealer immediately wrote up a bonafide order for the RS - very formal, salesman, sales manager, finance manager and owner all involved in writing up this order- (none had been done prior withthe GT3) and I was told that the orders had to be faxed to Porsche in order for the dealers to get an allocation. No bonafide order meant no allocation for that dealer.
I do think that initially Porsche decided to bring only a set limit of cars, cars that they had bonafide orders for. The reason I think that is when I switched my order from a GT3 to the RS, my dealer immediately wrote up a bonafide order for the RS - very formal, salesman, sales manager, finance manager and owner all involved in writing up this order- (none had been done prior withthe GT3) and I was told that the orders had to be faxed to Porsche in order for the dealers to get an allocation. No bonafide order meant no allocation for that dealer.
01-25-2007, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by frayed
that would mean some sort of waiver/exemption must be in place for the RS.
Originally Posted by frayed
If that's true, I couldn't find it on DOT's search of its docket.
01-25-2007, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RR
...I do think that initially Porsche decided to bring only a set limit of cars, cars that they had bonafide orders for. The reason I think that is when I switched my order from a GT3 to the RS, my dealer immediately wrote up a bonafide order for the RS - very formal, salesman, sales manager, finance manager and owner all involved in writing up this order- (none had been done prior withthe GT3) and I was told that the orders had to be faxed to Porsche in order for the dealers to get an allocation. No bonafide order meant no allocation for that dealer.