AsianBond

The PCCB cost an extra 10k, about 8% of the purchase price.

Heard the stopping ability is similiar to stock steel rotors but provides fade free performance on track. Only expect to do rare trackday with it.

What do the experts say?

Vancouver83LTD

Up to you.

frayed

RS + rare trackday?

supercup

If you are only going to take it to the track once in a while (once a year or so), then get the PCCB, if cost is not an issue for you. If cost is a factor, the standard steel brakes are fine.

JCM

Nordschleife

Catch 22 -

If you arent going to 'use' the brakes, the PCCBs are fine, you don't need them
if you are going to 'use' the brakes, then avoid the PCCBs unless you have a bottomless pocket, because you will need them.

R+C

PS there is a small business in Germany which has rotors made to their own design by SHW (plenty of mass to absorb heat, sophisticated internal aerodynamic profiled vanes, aero quality hats and floating pins), monobloc callipers machined in house to their own design - but you can't afford them, these are the BEST brakes available, encouragingly expensive and proven on the street and 24 hour racing at the Nürburgring.

Frank 993 C4S

I have yet to see any of my Porsche brakes significantly fade on a normal track day (no race). I've decided against the PCCBs althought this car would be my "track toy", primarily because I do not plan to drive the car 9/10s on the track - you can drive 7/10s or 8/10s and still have fun. In addition I saw some negative experiences posted about first and second generation PCCBs on this board (yes, I know that on this car, they are 3rd generation).

lawjdc

Driving the standard 997 brakes and then the PCCB's at the Porsche Driving Experience, I would say go ahead and buy the PCCB's - they are awesome!

rmag

Couldn't have said it better!

MJones

The new gen PCCB are really good!

carrering

I was considering PCCB's, but still have a few questions on them. Thought I would tack on to this post as its relevent.

From reading the site, the PCCB rotors are same diameter in rear at 350mm. The front rotors are 350mm on the standard brakes and the PCCB's are 380mm.

If say you did opt for the PCCB's and have a good time with them on track but end up cracking them by going off in the gravel, could you just decide to replace with standard rotors? Are the calipers identical? Both standard and PCCB's are 6 piston monobloc front with 4 piston monobloc rears. I would think just the shorter caliper carriers for the front would be required to make the swap back to standard iron disks. Better yet, just buy aftermarket 380mm iron disks for the front to complement replacment 350mm iron disks in back, since you would probably want slotted vs. drilled rotors anyways.

Lastly, is there an 18" wheel that will fit over the 380mm rotors? thats pretty close to a 15" diameter. PSC's are nice tires, but I would prefer saving some costs and running 18" RA-1's for track days.

AsianBond

Thanks for the feedback guys.

I am intrigue to hear that the steel rotors (350mm) stop as well as the PCCB (380mm).

Robert Linton

R+C who makes the best brakes?

Nordschleife

Robert

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Robin

Geoffrey

I read an article recently about electronic wedge brakes that are in development and testing by several German automakers. Here is a quote from the article

"In tests, a prototype with the wedge brakes regularly required less than half the distance to come to a complete stop than the prototype with standard brakes as well as providing greatly improved braking ability, wedge brakes are significantly lighter than the most advanced hydraulic units. With fewer moving parts they also could be more reliable and last longer."

Sources say that the new brakes will bee seen on the first cars by Audi, BMW, Mercedes, and Porsche planned for 2008.

This should be interesting.

frayed

Seems rather doubtful to me. Modern cars are generally tire limited, not brake limited. That is, single stopping distance is mostly a function tire (and brake bias).