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Old 07-20-2023, 02:05 PM
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@sirringo did you track your GT3 at THill? What org did you run with? Impressions (about the org)?

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Not mine but chatted with the owner at Thunderhill a couple weeks ago. Lovely to see it being used properly!

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Old 07-20-2023, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Spyerx
was out at the track a few months ago with a buddy, there was.... ONE 997 generation GT car out there... used to be we'd have whole run groups full of them. I'm guilty of same.
I think I’m gonna ship mine out and do a few DE’s a year. Screw it. It’s a dead man’s car to me. Join me. Be irresponsible
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Old 07-20-2023, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ard
@sirringo did you track your GT3 at THill? What org did you run with? Impressions (about the org)?
I was actually in my 718 - HOD (Hooked on Driving) did this event and it was fantastic. They charge a premium but from a safety, organization, and extras perspective (lunch included, actually useful download meetings discussing where to find extra tenths, etc.) it was spot on. Hordes of instructors around for tips too. I was escaping the heat in one of the classroom areas during a novice debrief and they were discussing in great detail how to stay in control when you go off-track with videos and case studies. Was impressed. Will be with them again at Laguna in a couple weeks on a high dB day

I run often with SpeedSF plus Lightspeed and Speed District; different feels at each one but I'd give good feedback on all organizations. The only group I will never run with again is the NorCal Shelby Club - by far and away the most unacceptably lax attitude towards safety I've seen in 15 years of track days. NASA is highly professional but less track time with long waits between sessions.

Still refreshing some items on the GT3 before I take it out later this year (just took delivery of it in March)!

PM me if you're looking at any upcoming days, would love to meet up!

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Old 07-21-2023, 12:59 AM
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+1 on HOD. They run a good program and have excellent instruction for the newcomers. PCA GGR also pretty good.
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Originally Posted by sirringo
I was actually in my 718 - HOD (Hooked on Driving) did this event and it was fantastic. They charge a premium but from a safety, organization, and extras perspective (lunch included, actually useful download meetings discussing where to find extra tenths, etc.) it was spot on. Hordes of instructors around for tips too. I was escaping the heat in one of the classroom areas during a novice debrief and they were discussing in great detail how to stay in control when you go off-track with videos and case studies. Was impressed. Will be with them again at Laguna in a couple weeks on a high dB day

I run often with SpeedSF plus Lightspeed and Speed District; different feels at each one but I'd give good feedback on all organizations. The only group I will never run with again is the NorCal Shelby Club - by far and away the most unacceptably lax attitude towards safety I've seen in 15 years of track days. NASA is highly professional but less track time with long waits between sessions.

Still refreshing some items on the GT3 before I take it out later this year (just took delivery of it in March)!

PM me if you're looking at any upcoming days, would love to meet up!
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+1 on HOD. They run a good program and have excellent instruction for the newcomers. PCA GGR also pretty good.

@sirringo @ChrisF +1 on HOD. David and Tupper run a tight organization with emphasis on safety. I also like that they "pro rate" time lost due to incidents evenly across all remaining sessions. It's more administrative work but is fairer. Other orgs I have run with (Ongrid and Corsa) take all the time lost out of the immediately following session. I lost an entire 20 minute session at Sonoma siting on the grid and had to return to the paddock. I posted about my experience with Corsa on RL (tl;dr: their attitude towards safety makes your hair stand up straight). Yes I'd love to connect for a track event although I'm more of a fall / winter / spring participant; I tend to sit out the "hot season"
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Old 07-21-2023, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ard
@sirringo @ChrisF +1 on HOD. David and Tupper run a tight organization with emphasis on safety. I also like that they "pro rate" time lost due to incidents evenly across all remaining sessions. It's more administrative work but is fairer. Other orgs I have run with (Ongrid and Corsa) take all the time lost out of the immediately following session. I lost an entire 20 minute session at Sonoma siting on the grid and had to return to the paddock. I posted about my experience with Corsa on RL (tl;dr: their attitude towards safety makes your hair stand up straight). Yes I'd love to connect for a track event although I'm more of a fall / winter / spring participant; I tend to sit out the "hot season"
Good to know on Corsa…and Sonoma’s a track where how the group treats incidents matters!
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Not lucky enough to have a 4.0 but I'm a very lonely 997 GT3 on track as well. Truth be told, I'm slower than my friends in the 991's & 992's and I work a lot harder...

Two weeks ago I was at The Ridge and there were two other 997 cars. One was a full blown cup car and the other was a seriously modded track car.
I drove there and back with a passenger, a teenage german nephew who had the time of his life.

But I still love it and wouldn't sell it for a few seconds in a DE event that has no winners or prize accept smiles. Well, and shiny side up :-)

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Old 07-22-2023, 09:05 AM
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Still tracking my 3.8 at DEs. Folks still come up and say “do you know how much those are worth? Can’t believe you are tracking it.”

I am happy to be enjoying it as intended even if the financial decision of selling and getting another track car with money to spare is better on paper. Too emotionally attached to see it go.
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Old 07-22-2023, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Hella-Buggin'
Not lucky enough to have a 4.0 but I'm a very lonely 997 GT3 on track as well. Truth be told, I'm slower than my friends in the 991's & 992's and I work a lot harder...

Two weeks ago I was at The Ridge and there were two other 997 cars. One was a full blown cup car and the other was a seriously modded track car.
I drove there and back with a passenger, a teenage german nephew who had the time of his life.

But I still love it and wouldn't sell it for a few seconds in a DE event that has no winners or prize accept smiles. Well, and shiny side up :-)

Awesome! It’s all about the drive and how you feel and the fun you have. These are the best drivers cars in the world.
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Old 07-23-2023, 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by The Greek
I think I’m gonna ship mine out and do a few DE’s a year. Screw it. It’s a dead man’s car to me. Join me. Be irresponsible
Now I want to go track my 997 4L....Speed District has a track event in early Oct at Buttonwillow.
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Old 07-23-2023, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Now I want to go track my 997 4L....Speed District has a track event in early Oct at Buttonwillow.
Do ET.

Let's get a 997/6 GT socal buttonwillow track day going. If people knew that a 4.0 was going I think more would be willing to bring their 6/7 GTs out.
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Old 07-23-2023, 09:51 PM
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I’d be in for that.

Originally Posted by Belinko
Do ET.

Let's get a 997/6 GT socal buttonwillow track day going. If people knew that a 4.0 was going I think more would be willing to bring their 6/7 GTs out.
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Originally Posted by Belinko
Do ET.

Let's get a 997/6 GT socal buttonwillow track day going. If people knew that a 4.0 was going I think more would be willing to bring their 6/7 GTs out.
Originally Posted by MJFDDS
I’d be in for that.
I'm so in that it's not even funny. Speed District has a Wednesday, Oct 4th track day at Buttonwillow (weekday track days are perfect for me because I'm a realtor as weekends are tough for me to go tracking nowadays). If we can organize a private track day mid-week that would be great too, maybe I'll talk to Betim to see if he can organize it. I'm gonna see if my buddy will come out with me so he can drive up my GT4RS and I'll drive up the 4.0 so I can track both.

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Old 07-24-2023, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by rensprt
Thank you for driving your Porsche. 4.0 or 3.8 or 3.6 it does not matter. Your driving the car is what you are supposed to do. YOU are doing everyone a favor as if the cars are only in a collection know one would even remember. Drive it as it was meant to be driven. An RS is is a beautiful thing. Meant to be DRIVEN.
Right, no matter if it is the 4.0, 3.8 or 3.6, all are Mezger and enjoyable



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Old 07-24-2023, 11:05 PM
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Fall 2020 last time out. I’ve driven things as/more fun on street but few if any street cars more fun on track than a 7-4.0.
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