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PPI Checklist
Hi everyone,
I started my search for a 997.1 GT3 and I may have found the right car for me. I will be inspecting it next week with the owner and I would like to be as thorough as possible. Obviously, I will have access to a lift and all the necessary tools.
I put together the checklist below and would greatly appreciate any feedback you may have. Can you let me know if I missed anything?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
Thanks for your help and looking forward to joining the GT3 owners club!
I started my search for a 997.1 GT3 and I may have found the right car for me. I will be inspecting it next week with the owner and I would like to be as thorough as possible. Obviously, I will have access to a lift and all the necessary tools.
I put together the checklist below and would greatly appreciate any feedback you may have. Can you let me know if I missed anything?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
Thanks for your help and looking forward to joining the GT3 owners club!
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You have a very comprehensive list. You should get a good feel for the car just by looking it over at first glance. Then go more in depth into your check list. You’re also buying the owner. The right owners on these cars is very important.
I wouldn’t be surprised if you notice a rear main seal leak. That’s more or less normal on these cars. You’re probably going to see light rock chipping even if the car has clear film on it, if the car has more then 10k miles.
There’s also nuances of the 997 that you’ll notice. For instance, the hood latch, surrounding it you may notice what looks like rust forming. It’s simply a reaction between the steel bolt for the latch and the aluminum hood. I see it on quite a few 997’s.
Expect some wear on interior surfaces, light wear on seat bolsters that is appropriate for the mileage and possibly some wear on the center console if it has a plastic one.
Best of luck.
I wouldn’t be surprised if you notice a rear main seal leak. That’s more or less normal on these cars. You’re probably going to see light rock chipping even if the car has clear film on it, if the car has more then 10k miles.
There’s also nuances of the 997 that you’ll notice. For instance, the hood latch, surrounding it you may notice what looks like rust forming. It’s simply a reaction between the steel bolt for the latch and the aluminum hood. I see it on quite a few 997’s.
Expect some wear on interior surfaces, light wear on seat bolsters that is appropriate for the mileage and possibly some wear on the center console if it has a plastic one.
Best of luck.
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Hi everyone,
I started my search for a 997.1 GT3 and I may have found the right car for me. I will be inspecting it next week with the owner and I would like to be as thorough as possible. Obviously, I will have access to a lift and all the necessary tools.
I put together the checklist below and would greatly appreciate any feedback you may have. Can you let me know if I missed anything?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
Thanks for your help and looking forward to joining the GT3 owners club!
I started my search for a 997.1 GT3 and I may have found the right car for me. I will be inspecting it next week with the owner and I would like to be as thorough as possible. Obviously, I will have access to a lift and all the necessary tools.
I put together the checklist below and would greatly appreciate any feedback you may have. Can you let me know if I missed anything?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
Thanks for your help and looking forward to joining the GT3 owners club!
Good Luck!
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Thanks for the feedback!
Could not agree more regarding the “you buy the owner” comment. Based on the interactions I have had with him so far, he seems to be a great and honest guy, and a genuine Porsche enthusiast. He is the second owner and has owned the car since 2014.
He already shared a few things with me:
- The RMS is leaking when he is not driving the car. I am not concerned with this since it is to be expected.
- The coolant lines have not been pinned/welded. I am adding this to my budget since I would like to take the car to the track.
- The DME report is clean (no over revs at all) and shows an average speed of 37 MPH over the car’s life
- There is a “P0332 code:Knock sensor 2” code fault which is not going away. No CEL light on the dash. I will have to take a closer look at this.
I had a chance to take a look at the car a few weeks ago and noticed the following:
- Body work is in great shape. 2 very small dents that could be easily fixed by a good PDR guy. Very few rock chips on the front bumper/hood. The clear bra is yellowing and would need to be replaced. This makes me a bit nervous since I have had a bad experience with the removal of an old clear bra on my 996 Turbo (the front bumper paint came off).
- There is a small piece of the dash that is delaminating. Not sure how to fix this yet.
Could not agree more regarding the “you buy the owner” comment. Based on the interactions I have had with him so far, he seems to be a great and honest guy, and a genuine Porsche enthusiast. He is the second owner and has owned the car since 2014.
He already shared a few things with me:
- The RMS is leaking when he is not driving the car. I am not concerned with this since it is to be expected.
- The coolant lines have not been pinned/welded. I am adding this to my budget since I would like to take the car to the track.
- The DME report is clean (no over revs at all) and shows an average speed of 37 MPH over the car’s life
- There is a “P0332 code:Knock sensor 2” code fault which is not going away. No CEL light on the dash. I will have to take a closer look at this.
I had a chance to take a look at the car a few weeks ago and noticed the following:
- Body work is in great shape. 2 very small dents that could be easily fixed by a good PDR guy. Very few rock chips on the front bumper/hood. The clear bra is yellowing and would need to be replaced. This makes me a bit nervous since I have had a bad experience with the removal of an old clear bra on my 996 Turbo (the front bumper paint came off).
- There is a small piece of the dash that is delaminating. Not sure how to fix this yet.
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Hi everyone,
So, I did my own inspection and the car is clean. We agreed on price with the seller.
Quick question. A leather piece on the dash (the piece closest to the windshield) is missing. I forgot to take a picture but it is the same piece being discussed on this thread: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...dations-3.html
Do you know if it is common for that piece of leather to delaminate due to heat? This is a two owners, Southern California car. The current owner mentioned that it was always garaged during his ownership so I am assuming that the original owner left the car under the SoCal sun a bit too much. Yellowing of the front clear bra also indicates this car spent a bit of time under the sun.
So, I did my own inspection and the car is clean. We agreed on price with the seller.
Quick question. A leather piece on the dash (the piece closest to the windshield) is missing. I forgot to take a picture but it is the same piece being discussed on this thread: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...dations-3.html
Do you know if it is common for that piece of leather to delaminate due to heat? This is a two owners, Southern California car. The current owner mentioned that it was always garaged during his ownership so I am assuming that the original owner left the car under the SoCal sun a bit too much. Yellowing of the front clear bra also indicates this car spent a bit of time under the sun.
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If that piece is in carbon fiber as it is in that thread, it is very common. I’ve seen low mileage cars have the carbon peel up. Replace it either with a plastic piece, leather piece from a company like exclusive option, or a carbon piece from someone like DB carbon or MA Carbon. Haven’t checked which one makes that component.
As far as the clear films, also very common. The older films adhesive will tend to yellow over time. Even the new ones will still pick up contaminants and show signs of age, yellowing and discoloration over time. I recommend removing with a steamer if the film is old or at least a heat gun. But steamer is preferred and the safest method. This can happen whether or not the car has a lot of sun exposure. Sounds like you found a good car. Congrats. Keep us posted on the purchase process.
As far as the clear films, also very common. The older films adhesive will tend to yellow over time. Even the new ones will still pick up contaminants and show signs of age, yellowing and discoloration over time. I recommend removing with a steamer if the film is old or at least a heat gun. But steamer is preferred and the safest method. This can happen whether or not the car has a lot of sun exposure. Sounds like you found a good car. Congrats. Keep us posted on the purchase process.
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If that piece is in carbon fiber as it is in that thread, it is very common. I’ve seen low mileage cars have the carbon peel up. Replace it either with a plastic piece, leather piece from a company like exclusive option, or a carbon piece from someone like DB carbon or MA Carbon. Haven’t checked which one makes that component.
As far as the clear films, also very common. The older films adhesive will tend to yellow over time. Even the new ones will still pick up contaminants and show signs of age, yellowing and discoloration over time. I recommend removing with a steamer if the film is old or at least a heat gun. But steamer is preferred and the safest method. This can happen whether or not the car has a lot of sun exposure. Sounds like you found a good car. Congrats. Keep us posted on the purchase process.
As far as the clear films, also very common. The older films adhesive will tend to yellow over time. Even the new ones will still pick up contaminants and show signs of age, yellowing and discoloration over time. I recommend removing with a steamer if the film is old or at least a heat gun. But steamer is preferred and the safest method. This can happen whether or not the car has a lot of sun exposure. Sounds like you found a good car. Congrats. Keep us posted on the purchase process.
The dash piece was in leather. I will just look for a replacement.
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Here are part numbers for the left and right leather defrost trim. This does not have carbon inlays in it.
Left: 997-552-983-00-A11
Right: 997-552-984-00-A11
$488 per side.
Or Exclusive Option for $789 for left and right both. Plus $100 if you do not want to send your old trim back.
http://shop.exclusiveoption.com/Leat...97-9X7L24A.htm
The Porsche OEM leather trim is just so expensive and does not come up often. I am on eBay pretty much weekly trying to find OEM leather trim. It just never comes up.
Left: 997-552-983-00-A11
Right: 997-552-984-00-A11
$488 per side.
Or Exclusive Option for $789 for left and right both. Plus $100 if you do not want to send your old trim back.
http://shop.exclusiveoption.com/Leat...97-9X7L24A.htm
The Porsche OEM leather trim is just so expensive and does not come up often. I am on eBay pretty much weekly trying to find OEM leather trim. It just never comes up.
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Here are part numbers for the left and right leather defrost trim. This does not have carbon inlays in it.
Left: 997-552-983-00-A11
Right: 997-552-984-00-A11
$488 per side.
Or Exclusive Option for $789 for left and right both. Plus $100 if you do not want to send your old trim back.
http://shop.exclusiveoption.com/Leat...97-9X7L24A.htm
The Porsche OEM leather trim is just so expensive and does not come up often. I am on eBay pretty much weekly trying to find OEM leather trim. It just never comes up.
Left: 997-552-983-00-A11
Right: 997-552-984-00-A11
$488 per side.
Or Exclusive Option for $789 for left and right both. Plus $100 if you do not want to send your old trim back.
http://shop.exclusiveoption.com/Leat...97-9X7L24A.htm
The Porsche OEM leather trim is just so expensive and does not come up often. I am on eBay pretty much weekly trying to find OEM leather trim. It just never comes up.