Jrtaylor9

With a few exceptions (CGT being one), aren't all cars down over last 12 mos?

Four Liter

It seems that way to me as well .

pissedpuppy

love my MY08 lowly GT3....yes, I'd love an RS but I got stymied on a Green one years ago

so I'll just continue to love and keep my 997 NB GT3

I will be adding a GT4 very soon, anxious to see what it's like - it's a beauty too, white, LWBS, PCCBs 4K miles - balance must be incredible


I'd really love to know more about the Boxster Spyder (later version) - great looking car

thxbuff2001

All I know if that is if you look at the current asking prices of 997.2 RS for a 6k mile car at $205, I bought my car 3 years ago with 3k miles on it for almost the same price. Miles factor in the price of the car but at the same time, I was looking at a gray car with 7.5k miles, it is private sale for $175k.

Either they increased or it never moved.

Auctions are never really a good place to sell cars.

RSA_27149

^^^ Sounds like you're saying that 997.2 RS's have dipped a bit over the course of past couple years, and recently going back up to the levels 3 years ago. If so, I agree.
There are less units being marketed to be sold compared to 3 years ago as well.

For the speculators (which I am not), they are now seeing that there are a LOT of 991 GT3 and RS cars that have been produced and many more units to be built. (GT3 convertible anyone?)
There are also a lot of 991 GT3 and RS cars in the used market now. These are cross shopped amongst used McLaren's, Ferrari's and Lambo's...all of which further single out 997 RS cars as something truly unique. Compounding the fact that many owners of 997 RS cars are now seeing the same and that they are not selling, just adding (me included)….that's why we are seeing the price creep.

thxbuff2001

thxbuff2001

Jrtaylor9

^^^depends on the 992rs power plant.

bweSteve

These are all the same exact conversations & realizations (I agree with you), that occurred in the air-cooled market for 930's & 964 Turbo's.

Albeit when I bought mine (which was lucky for me) it was the bottom for the 964Turbo, which happened 15 yrs after the 2 year production run ( in 1991 & '92 as the ONLY years sold in US, .... only 580 U.S. units sold in '91). I bought in 2005.

So I agree with buff2001 & RSA27149 for the 997 GT3's (RS' will carry the GT3 with it), and it seems that since they are producing so many more 991's, that it is happening earlier than the air-cooled realization. We're currently only 8 to 11 yrs out.

Glad I picked one up now. It is an amazing, raw, visceral drive, much like the experience we have in our Window Maker.

Although, per my note above in post # 28, looking back over the past 8 - 11 yrs, what year was the bottom (thus far) for both GT3 & GT3RS? ... couple prior posts make it seem that it was 2-3 years ago (verses now).
...... you can tell me,... I can handle it,... I'm 2 years late for the 997.2 GT3 that I just bought,.... right?

=Steve

voodoo

It's a wash because you're going to make a killing on that 964!

bweSteve

hahaha,.... but only if I sell right,... and when it comes to letting go of cars, I have a disease,... and I can see this GT3 shaping up as a fun car to keep for the long run.

in the end,... which could be my own end (not the car),... I'm not really saving miles for anyone else..... but the conjecture sure is fun

widers911

Steve, I don't think the market has changed very much for a 997.2 gt3. Lowest priced ones say in 2014 were around 100 with outliers in the 90s. Seemed like most good examples with under 15k miles were in the 105-115 ballpark with high optioned ones going for little more. Bottom of 997.2 gt3 market would be in that range, while bottom of 997.1 gt3 market was low 70s with outliers in the 60s.

The RS market had a much larger spread, seems like 997.1rs bottomed in the mid 80s while 997.2rs bottomed around 110-115. Now that same 80k 997.1rs would be around the 135-155k range (color dependent) while the 997.2rs would be around 150 or higher. Of course these don't include the outliers that are storied or considered very high mileage.

bweSteve

Thanks Widers911. Very well put and good comparison data.

We shall see how things fair in the years to come. Especially when they all go bi-turbo.

The more cars I own, the less each one of them gets driven individually, and thus the MORE miles I actually get as the driver!! ... at least that's my story to my wife & I'm stickin' to it.

mooty

the best way to get your money's worth is to put 30k miles on any porsche you now every year.

JB911

Looking at the release photos and videos of the new 992, I hope the new GT3 ends up looking ok
991.2 was barely out, maybe it will take a while-
Still, 997 GT3 is the gem, especially looks-