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Old 08-21-2017 | 11:38 AM
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Being in the market for a 4.0, I was watching the auctions closely this weekend. A white and Black 4.0 sold for $380k and $370k respectively, with miles in the 4-5k range. These are hammer prices not including buyer premiums as I understand
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Those prices are leaving me hopeful but with buyers premium it is $418 and $407. I also heard that some auctions where dropping there premiums to 6% on both sides to get sales this year.
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Those prices are leaving me hopeful but with buyers premium it is $418 and $407. I also heard that some auctions where dropping there premiums to 6% on both sides to get sales this year.
yes, but sellers have to price in sellers premium (10%) which would be $342k and $333k net
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Wasn't that white 4.0 on sale by someone on RL for like $500k a while back?
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Wasn't that white 4.0 on sale by someone on RL for like $500k a while back?
I think you're correct. I remember seeing a similar building the photos were shot in with a white RS 4.0. Something about the owner re-vamping a commercial building he had.
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Best prices on 4.0's we've seen in long while. Still not "cheap", but probably biggest /only pullback we've seen since they LAUNCHED from just over msrp.
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I think if you look at all the Porsches on auction this weekend, it was fairly soft.

And prices at Gooding overall, I don't think were as soft as they were for Porsches, it's just
that the Porsches didn't generate a lot of competitive bidding interest.
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Look across the board it's been a pretty bad weekend for car auctions. Majority of the lots at RM, Bonhams and Mecum sold below low end of estimates. Whereas Porsches have been weak for the past 9 months, run-of-the-mill Ferraris are now having a dog's time too.
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There might be some buyer fatigue out there is my guess. I would have probably bought that Black one but with the buyer premium I'd be around the same price that I paid for a my 4.0 with a CPO. Just confirms that what I paid was definitely in the ballpark.
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That makes two happy buyers out there... Hope they get to drive this car in all its glory!
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
There might be some buyer fatigue out there is my guess. I would have probably bought that Black one but with the buyer premium I'd be around the same price that I paid for a my 4.0 with a CPO. Just confirms that what I paid was definitely in the ballpark.
Have you driven yours yet? I'm awaiting some feedback?

I just bought a 2k miles 3.8RS and really enjoy it. I am 99% sure that I will buy a 4.0 as well. I've heard from Mooty that there is a huge difference.

As far as prices, the market has gotten soft. Premium is probably for cars with under 2k miles?
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Have you driven yours yet? I'm awaiting some feedback?

I just bought a 2k miles 3.8RS and really enjoy it. I am 99% sure that I will buy a 4.0 as well. I've heard from Mooty that there is a huge difference.

As far as prices, the market has gotten soft. Premium is probably for cars with under 2k miles?
Just around the block a few times. Car got fully detailed with paint protection and I'm waiting for the fully wrap to get installed. The car does sound different, has more power/torque, and suspension feels different.
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I thought Gooding had unrealistic estimates. Now that Monterey is over, I'm waiting to see what hits the market in the next few months with cash in hand.
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The biggest issue with the auctions.

Is the auctions.
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If I may bump my own reply.

It's now a business. No.

An industry.

Guys are buying cars and watching auction results like stocks. They are not.

Sell here. Buy there.

If this is how you live you will lose.



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