exploserous

That's easy, just listen to one.

USNA12

Man its that bad huh? Both will hold their value very VERY well...a 6MT 997.2 anything will hold its value it seems.


Hell in a few years you'll hear about people pining for the LAST REALLL Turbo since every Porsche will be a turbo then, and the 997.2 will be sold for absurd prices.


Well, not my car, because who wants a rare performance car that was driven like a Porsche should be driven...

raidersfan

I heard one with an upgraded exhaust (Akropovic I believe) and it didn't suck. Buy a turbo, either upgrade to damptronics (or find a car with the upgrade), get the exhaust upgraded, and you won't find more car for the money anywhere. I test drove a 2007 6MT Turbo last year, and as much as I like the Carrera platform, at $70k, the Turbo simply is the better buy (IMO). It needs the suspension upgrade to come alive. Plus, it looks better than a stock (non aerokit) GTS. I have always thought the Aerokit wing on the 997.2 was ricey and a bit goofy. The Turbo wing is more subtle; the scoops at the rear of the car are classic, the front bumper looks great. You also get full leather standard. It's just a step up, IMO. The GTS is sweet, but I have seen low mileage 997TT's, super clean no issue cars with under 20k miles selling in the mid 70's. That is a no-brainer in my book.

The Turbo being a bit older and having the less refined electronics are the main downsides. The power builds very linearly for a turbo. Neither are going to depreciate more than the other at this point. I would expect the TT to have bottomed in deprecation already. The GTS likely will still fall a bit; the same car is around $5k less than this time last year. Of course, that is all dependent on certain people not getting their way to reinstate Smoot-Hawley. If the economy tanks, these cars become much cheaper!

USNA12

So the Turbo I am looking at is a 997.2, meaning updated interior and PTV which doesn't ever hurt right?


Price is still high. I guess we will see what the coming months bring...and how much money I blow while we stop in Dubai...

WantA997

If you can't find a GTS in your desired spec, good luck finding a 6MT .2 Turbo.

exploserous

Are .2 6MT Turbos rarer or simply more expensive?

A search on CarGurus shows 3 6MT GTS and around 10 6MT .2 Turbos.

USNA12, have you already reached out on this car? http://www.pbautogroup.com/vehicle/u...s-2621045.cfml

raidersfan

He may very well have more luck. There are several for sale here right now in various colors. A guy in Hawaii sold his loaded, one owner 2008 6MT with 10k miles (and some really classy mods), all records, for $80k, in basalt black. Seems like a new one is posted weekly: it has been at least a couple of months since I have seen a 997 GTS manual posted up for sale. 2 that I can remember since January


Although I don't have hard data, I would suspect that a lot more turbos were sold than GTS', which was a limited production run and mostly PDK. The end run of 997's look to be mostly PDK; it seemed like there was a lot of hype around it at the time, which has since died down. The 997 Turbo was Tiptronic, so the manual probably had a take rate of 50%.

Skwerl

07-09 Turbos were still the .1 models. The 07-08 6mt coupes aren't too hard to find, it's the 09 (last Mezger and has upgraded PCM) and .2 (new engine and other features) 6mt coupes that will be a challenge. In particular, 2010-13 6mt TT coupes are very rare and desirable (last manual Turbos) and will cost more than a GTS.

USNA12

I have actually found a few .2 6MT Turbos at a decent price. about 10k more than a GTS...but its also a Turbo...


Oh well, the search for the GTS continues. If it doesn't pan out, no one seems to be buying these Turbos anytime soon.

997GTScab

Do it! I hunted for mine for about nine months and so happy I did...LOVE the car. Got out of a 991 and went back to the 997.2 GTS for a more analog, connected driving experience. Best Porsche and best car I've ever owned.
2012 GTS cab, 6MT, Carrera White over Espresso leather. full leather plus extended leather, sport seats painted to match, dash and console surround painted to match, centerlock delete for lots of wheel options, $135K sticker plus clear bra. Paid $80K with only 13K miles and wouldn't trade it. Every time I drive it, I fall in love with it again. Now has 18K miles and still looks gorgeous. Really worth taking the time to hunt one down.

USNA12

Yes, waiting for the right one. Hopefully I will find it before I get back to the states, and then actually be able to buy it without a vulture sniping on my WTB thread.


Which literally just happened yesterday, someone messaged a potential seller while our internet on the ship was down. really sucked.

USNA12

Update. Starwood is getting aggressive on their pricing for that GTS with hits in Range 5...has anyone had a compression and leakdown test done? If so how much does it cost and how helpful was it?


Also, WORST case scenario, would a Fidelity Platinum Warranty cover an engine failure if I get royally screwed while whipping around Tail of the Dragon or *mouth waters* Virginia International Raceway?

ltcjmramos

Most if not all insurance will not cover anything on the track, collision or mechanical. On the collision side, you would need to buy "track day" insurance. As to canyon carving, probably, as long as you can show prost maintenance had been done.

USNA12

I always stay on top of MX and generally am ahead of any service interval for any vehicle I own, I have track day coverage for all of my motorcycles(including the XDiavel S, any of you riders out there, yes I am taking her to the track as soon as I get stateside!) but as far as warranty goes, do they ask for a DME readout?


I talked to a local Porsche dealership, awesome guys and they offered to help me "re-CPO" any vehicle I decide to eventually purchase, but CPO will not cover any engine issues with his in range 4 and 5, even if they are over 200 hours old.

ltcjmramos

As a matter of curiosity, did they say how much the "re-CPO" service would cost?