Would you be interested in a hybrid 911?
02-13-2017, 10:29 AM
#16
If they did it correctly I think we'd all want one:
- 2.7L flat six air cooled petrol to drive the rear
- electric up front for torque gaps
- lead acid batteries in the front bumper. This would also help with weight distribution
- hydraulic steering
- Singer headlamps
- Whale tail
- 2.7L flat six air cooled petrol to drive the rear
- electric up front for torque gaps
- lead acid batteries in the front bumper. This would also help with weight distribution
- hydraulic steering
- Singer headlamps
- Whale tail
02-13-2017, 12:42 PM
#20
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Definitely not for track or true enthusiast watching his usual braking points trying to perfect that throttle blip. That is the opposite way. For a commuter watching his MPG after car's polishing for 3 hours, and substituting engine's noise music with symphony orchestra, sure electric is way of life.
02-13-2017, 11:57 PM
#22
Burning Brakes
The less electronics in a car the better. They better keep manufacturing the battery packs for all of these hybrid cars. I don't know much about the technology but it sounds like future obsolescence problems waiting to happen.
02-14-2017, 01:14 AM
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I'm an engineer at an electric car company and would have to say "not interested" for my personal 911. I just love the sound of dinosaur fuel exploding in small chambers and exiting through carefully resonated exhausts. The gear whine from the timing system is my 2nd favorite and every now and then the 6 speed Aisin transmission makes some gear whine too. 
A Panamera? Yes, I would love to have a new e-hybrid to commute with or for long distances and by 2019/2020 there will be a lot of other Panamera class choices if all goes well.
I've had a chance to drive just about everything electric including the slow Golf/Leaf, 330e, fiat, bolt/volt, etc... including the 5,000lb (yes, it's stupid heavy) P100D Tesla S and our own stripped out 1000 hp electric prototype. Despite the current weight penalty, primarily due to battery technology, they are stupid fast from 0-100 mph. At this point, it's mostly about battery weight/desnity, charge time and keeping the relatively low surface area motors and batteries cool under track driving conditions.
That said, it's going to happen and there will be an electrified Porsche 911. Whether they just power the front wheels with electric machines or slap a motor between the engine and transmission I have no idea. The downsizing to a smaller flat six is part of that plan. At some point the turbo's will go and electric motor will pop in, then they'll pop the turbos back in for an "S" model plus an electric motor. And then! you'll have a Porsche-like list of options for 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 kWh batteries with an S, GTS or RS performance spec inverter!
A Panamera? Yes, I would love to have a new e-hybrid to commute with or for long distances and by 2019/2020 there will be a lot of other Panamera class choices if all goes well.
I've had a chance to drive just about everything electric including the slow Golf/Leaf, 330e, fiat, bolt/volt, etc... including the 5,000lb (yes, it's stupid heavy) P100D Tesla S and our own stripped out 1000 hp electric prototype. Despite the current weight penalty, primarily due to battery technology, they are stupid fast from 0-100 mph. At this point, it's mostly about battery weight/desnity, charge time and keeping the relatively low surface area motors and batteries cool under track driving conditions.
That said, it's going to happen and there will be an electrified Porsche 911. Whether they just power the front wheels with electric machines or slap a motor between the engine and transmission I have no idea. The downsizing to a smaller flat six is part of that plan. At some point the turbo's will go and electric motor will pop in, then they'll pop the turbos back in for an "S" model plus an electric motor. And then! you'll have a Porsche-like list of options for 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 kWh batteries with an S, GTS or RS performance spec inverter!
02-14-2017, 01:45 AM
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If they did it correctly I think we'd all want one:
- 2.7L flat six air cooled petrol to drive the rear
- electric up front for torque gaps
- lead acid batteries in the front bumper. This would also help with weight distribution
- hydraulic steering
- Singer headlamps
- Whale tail
- 2.7L flat six air cooled petrol to drive the rear
- electric up front for torque gaps
- lead acid batteries in the front bumper. This would also help with weight distribution
- hydraulic steering
- Singer headlamps
- Whale tail
Lead acid FTW! We built a decent formula e car in 1998 with 84 lead acid motorcycle batteries and old EV1 parts. It snapped VW beetle 3 speed transmissions every time the motor control screwed up guessing what the next gear was.
Funny what you said about the batteries in the front bumper, reminds me about how Jeremy Clarkson always says that Porsche and Audi have their engines in the wrong place. He would love it if Porsche hung batteries out on the front bumper
02-14-2017, 08:34 AM
#25
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I might be but I'll probably be dead before it happens.
Although in fairness, the chances are that one of my future cars will be a petrol/electric hybrid (with electric for AWD and/or torque fill) but I doubt it'll be the 911 in my garage that's encumbered with an electric motor.
Although in fairness, the chances are that one of my future cars will be a petrol/electric hybrid (with electric for AWD and/or torque fill) but I doubt it'll be the 911 in my garage that's encumbered with an electric motor.
02-16-2017, 08:26 PM
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02-16-2017, 09:06 PM
#29
Team Owner
Nope.
I'd more like to go backwards, like a nice 3.2 Carrera added. No desire what so ever for a battery toy.
I'd more like to go backwards, like a nice 3.2 Carrera added. No desire what so ever for a battery toy.
02-16-2017, 09:22 PM
#30
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But unfortunately Porsche doesn't have much choice as they try to meet increasingly stringent European emissions standards. That's why I'm enjoying a real car while I can before we're all driving glorified golf carts around.