John997s

I got a setup with Bilstein B16 damptronic and to that got a pair of Rennline camber plates. What other parts do I need to buy to get this to work?
I don't want to take the original dampers apart. I guess there is some kind of part between these to so the spring can rotate against the camber plate.

scorcherjf

You'd need an upper spring perch of matching inner diameter since I assume you won't be using the OEM bearings (since those mate with the OEM top plates). To prevent spring bind up, get a thrust sheet kit (which is a thin plastic and metal sheet that allows rotation) of the same inner diameter. Swift sells these thrust sheet kits and I believe the Bilstein B16 uses a 60mm ID spring up front. As for the upper spring perch, I think JRZ makes a 60mm ID perch that works with that setup.

John997s

Ok. But won't the OEM bearing work since both the Rennline plate and the Bilstein B16 should work with the OEM products?

scorcherjf

I'm not familiar with the Rennline plates. If they do work with the OEM bearings, and you have the Bilstein B16 upper spring perches that originally came with the kit, then yes you can use those with the OEM bearings. The instructions for the Bilsteins should tell you which OEM parts you need to re-use (such as the OEM bearing). When the instructions reference the OEM top plate, just simply use the Rennline plates there and it should all mount up fine if the Rennline plates do indeed work with OEM hardware.

I was under the impression you were trying to avoid using OEM parts to get a more direct steering feel or alter the height, etc.

Tom@TPC Racing

If you need spring hats to fit Bilstein springs I make them for street/race cars. See photos below. These billet aluminum spring hats replaces the Bilstein spring adapters which are intended to connect to the OEM upper mounts.







The rennline top plates are sort of unique in that they seat the OEM bell-shaped springs according to the photos on their website. Which is a little weird since using OEM bell-shaped springs defeat the full-articulation feature of the monoball bearing. Anyway, using my spring hats and proper lower bushings(or couple of M14 washers) will have full articulation.

PM me if interested in the spring hats.

John997s

thank you for all the answers.
I have sent you a PM about the spring hats.

Tom@TPC Racing

My pleasure. I have responded to your PM. Below is a better image depicting how the hat goes between the top plate and the damper shaft.
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You will need enough distance above the hat in order to have enough space for the monoball bearing to articulate. Usually 5mm of distance is enough, but more than 5mm is better. This is why I mention in previous post that if the lower metal bushing that came with the plate is not long enough then M14 washers can be added to build up the distance.

Petza914

Even better than a thrust sheet is a thrust bearing, which has 2 metal races sandwiching a thin roller bearing between them. This is what I installed when doing my B16s and have never had a spring bind noise or feel. You can get them off eBay very reasonably and I can look up the dimensions of what I used if you need them.

motopix

PCS AXK6085 Thrust Needle Roller Bearing With Two Washers 60mm x 85mm x 3mm

scorcherjf

I tried the thrust bearings from ebay and they ended up rusting out after a year and seized up (winter driving probably). I ended up switching to the sheets because it's 1 stainless steel race and a plastic one and no gaps for dirt/sand to get trapped in and they rotate about as well from my experience and no corrosion either.

tgarchtect1

to guy that makes the to the top plates.Hi, I am a fairly new member. I re-shocked my 2006 997.1 about a year ago and went with D-2 coil overs.For budget reasons. the street version have adjustable camber plates for the front shocks. I too have purchased the Bilstein B16 kit. My mechanic and I have been searching for something like what you made. If I had a lathe I could turn the same thing. I want to keep the adjustable camber plates from the D-2 dampers and use them on the B16's. What do you charge to make those and also do you make them for the rear shocks also. Dummy me threw away the OE top mounts last year when we installed the D-2's. I am an Architect and I will do a drawing of the D-2 camber plates front and rear.