Why do I keep mangling the oil drain plug?
#1
Intermediate
Thread Starter
Why do I keep mangling the oil drain plug?
Did my first oil change yesterday. It was a prolonged affair due to my mangling of the drain plug as I tried to remove it, then waiting for the extractor kit to arrive, and finally finishing. However, when I installed the new plug, I managed to mangle that one too. This was despite seating the hex drive as deep as I can into the plug, even tapping it light with a hammer before screwing it in.
The new plug was the mag one that required 19 ft-lbs of torque force, but I didn't get that on my wrench before it got mangled. I dare not attempt further tightening or risk making a major headache for the next oil change.
I'll keep an eye on the oil as I drive, watch for leaks, but what would you do differently? Do you have a particular hex bit that seats fully into the plug. I don't think I'd have this problem if my bit seated fully in, and not just a few millimeters. It's the 8mm required bit.
The new plug was the mag one that required 19 ft-lbs of torque force, but I didn't get that on my wrench before it got mangled. I dare not attempt further tightening or risk making a major headache for the next oil change.
I'll keep an eye on the oil as I drive, watch for leaks, but what would you do differently? Do you have a particular hex bit that seats fully into the plug. I don't think I'd have this problem if my bit seated fully in, and not just a few millimeters. It's the 8mm required bit.
#2
Burning Brakes
Not sure why your bit doesn't seat fully. Is it a quality brand and in good condition? If not, replace.
I've found on occasion that the "hole" for the bit can get plugged with road debris and general crap. Try cleaning it with a toothpick or other small, non-damaging device.
Finally, when you replace the drain plug are you using a good torque wrench and the correct torque? For my 2009 C2S, torque is 37 ft-lbs IIRC.
Good luck.
I've found on occasion that the "hole" for the bit can get plugged with road debris and general crap. Try cleaning it with a toothpick or other small, non-damaging device.
Finally, when you replace the drain plug are you using a good torque wrench and the correct torque? For my 2009 C2S, torque is 37 ft-lbs IIRC.
Good luck.
#3
37 on the plug, 19 on the filter. That's for the 997.2S at least.
Magnetic plugs that I've seen are made from soft aluminum and can round out. But if you drive a ***** punch into them 1/8 inch from the edge and then tilt that punch to about 45 degrees you can then drive them out pretty easily.
Get the best quality tools you can find. Not all tools are sized equivalently.
Magnetic plugs that I've seen are made from soft aluminum and can round out. But if you drive a ***** punch into them 1/8 inch from the edge and then tilt that punch to about 45 degrees you can then drive them out pretty easily.
Get the best quality tools you can find. Not all tools are sized equivalently.
#4
I had the same issues with mine. I happened with the oem drain plug as well as another aluminum magnetic drain plug I had purchased. This one is steel and exactly the same size in every way as the oem plug and has the magnet on it as well. I didn't buy it for the magnet but it is an added bonus. Well worth the 20 bucks I spent on it. No affiliation
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...5UL0qt&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...5UL0qt&vxp=mtr
#5
Rennlist Member
I recommend that you start the drain plug by hand:
1. Place the plug into into the drain hole, and
2. Without applying much pressure, rotate the plug as if you are unscrewing it,
3. Eventually, within 360 degrees of rotation, you will feel a slight click. That is the oil pan thread starting point meeting the drain plug starting point,
4. With out adjusting the position of the drain plug, now rotate the plug as if to tighten it.
5. This all but guarantees no cross thread.
1. Place the plug into into the drain hole, and
2. Without applying much pressure, rotate the plug as if you are unscrewing it,
3. Eventually, within 360 degrees of rotation, you will feel a slight click. That is the oil pan thread starting point meeting the drain plug starting point,
4. With out adjusting the position of the drain plug, now rotate the plug as if to tighten it.
5. This all but guarantees no cross thread.
#7
The issue I was having with the oem aluminum plug was not cross threading but rather the 8mm hex socket would either get stuck in the drain plug or the plug would begin to round. Yes, I was using the correct sized socket as well a proper torque wrench.
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#10
Rennlist Member
If you have buddy that does car related things, call him over once and see what he does. Patience is king when working with cars. Never use force. You're doing something wrong if you're forcing stuff. I've done a bunch of oil changes and never a problem with the Aluminum plugs.
I don't mean to sound condescending, just trying to be helpful.
I don't mean to sound condescending, just trying to be helpful.
#11
Instructor
CBST09 - Just for giggles go to sears and test fit some sockets. Bring your old one along as a standard. That plug should not round out given proper tools and I am reading correctly you are not hamfisting this so rule that out.
#12
There's a chance your torque wrench isn't working correctly. Incorrect torque settings are the first sign of a failing torque wrench. Low torque settings are particularly prone to inaccuracy.
#13
They have been thinking about this. A steel plug in knowledgeable hands is fine, but some people managed to rip a big hole in the sump by over tightening the plug. With a softer material plug and a small allen hole the risk of causing problems is small as in most cases you just round the allen hole...
#14
Rennlist Member
Agree. Also, make sure it's a hex bit and not a torx bit.
#15
Instructor
Anyone ever thought of using one of these? I'm thinking of getting one for each of my 3 cars. I use a vacuum extractor to take the oil out through the dipstick (other vehicles) and then undo the drain plug to get the last half cup or so of oi; out. That way I'm not spilling oil all over or miscalculating positioning the oil container.
https://www.fumotooildrainvalve.com/...rain-plug.html
https://www.fumotooildrainvalve.com/...rain-plug.html