Accident - thoughts? Totaled?
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Agree - not totaled but not cheap to repair. Look for the Porsche authorized repair center for a quote.
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Before you settle with the other person's insurance, make sure that you get a check for loss of value. Take it to a Porsche dealer and get a trade in value with and without the ding on the Carfax....then present it to the insurance company for reimbursement. If it wasn't your fault, which it looks like, your plan was not to reduce the value of the car by inflicting this damage. Be strong, be relentless, no matter what. 99% of people walk away once they get pushback from an insurance company, but no one can argue with the facts that the value is now less than before.
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You know, that's something I never see addressed. While a repaired or replaced fender or door on a Chevy, Buick or even a decent Benz doesn't really hurt the value of the car, a stickler will not even want a Porsche with a repaint on a bumper let alone quarter panels, etc. A car with a 50k+ value with a repair of this type will take a hit no matter how good the repair is. Why doesn't the insurance company compensate for that? The action of another literally hurt the value of that vehicle which in many instances can't be recouped.
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Originally Posted by sandwedge
Maybe not a common situation but I had a really bad experience with a Porsche authorized repair center. Simple repair of a ding and respray of the front hood and they couldn't get it right after two attempts. Turns out, that Porsche authorized repair center is owned by the same dude who owns the local Porsche dealership. Appears it was authorized for reasons other than quality workmanship.
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The insurance company won't compensate for that voluntarily because it isn't in their interest to do so. Oftentimes to get money for a diminished value claim, you have to take it to court. And if you take it to court, you need to make sure you have your evidence to support your claim (an expert witness, preferably). These cases are not cheap to pursue and can be time consuming. So most people don't bother. The insurance companies know this. And so they don't pay willingly. So the cycle goes...
There's so much written about how body work have a negative impact on the value of these cars that the case is not that difficult to make imo. I also got a written opinion from the sales manager at my dealership. As with everything else, come prepared and don't get intimidated.
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Diminished value is much more common these days. After a four martini lunch girl hit my passenger door with a BAC of 0.21, the insurance co didn't blink when I asked for a new door and diminished value. It wasn't as much as I would of liked but it wasn't worth the hassle to get more. I also made it clear that I wouldn't except the paint if it didn't match and the paint thickness was consistent with the rest of the car.
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Originally Posted by flat6ix
Not as close but I recall seeing some good reviews for these guys on the forum before
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Thanks again all for the feedback, it really helps and I'm taking notes and doing some additional research. Photos to follow-up after it's all completed and I'll be sure to have the repairs carefully documented throughout by the facility as to have that process documented for any future buyer if/when that happens.
That said, I'm more inclined to keep this thing until the wheels fall off and turn this experience into a bonding one, if nothing else. We'll see.
Thanks again.
That said, I'm more inclined to keep this thing until the wheels fall off and turn this experience into a bonding one, if nothing else. We'll see.
Thanks again.
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Thanks again all for the feedback, it really helps and I'm taking notes and doing some additional research. Photos to follow-up after it's all completed and I'll be sure to have the repairs carefully documented throughout by the facility as to have that process documented for any future buyer if/when that happens.
That said, I'm more inclined to keep this thing until the wheels fall off and turn this experience into a bonding one, if nothing else. We'll see.
Thanks again.
That said, I'm more inclined to keep this thing until the wheels fall off and turn this experience into a bonding one, if nothing else. We'll see.
Thanks again.
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Thanks, that makes me feel better. I've had the car for four weeks so it's pretty brutal to have something like this happen so early.
Right attitude. I'd puke if that happened to my unicorn, but it looks like it can be fixed. The experts will let you know. My 997.2S was badly dinged up 2 weeks into ownership, by a hail storm, and it came back looking better than it left after PDR, bodywork and a detail. Taught me an important lesson, they can be fixed, it may be a PITA, but they can be fixed. Was a lot more relaxed and enjoyed the ownership experience more since then. Get it fixed (if it can be), and then drive the wheels off it…T
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Bummer, accidents are never good.....
But..... given that I drive my cars, 197K from my Boxster S, and now 100K on my 2009 C2s, I bang 'em up! The trick is getting a good repair facility..... don't trust the recommendation of the dealer as was my bad experience once.
For me, I would be unhappy for a fortnight, then after a good repair, pretty much forget about it. It is a car, nothing special about installing a new fender, Porsche paint is not anything special..... not a Faberge egg.
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But..... given that I drive my cars, 197K from my Boxster S, and now 100K on my 2009 C2s, I bang 'em up! The trick is getting a good repair facility..... don't trust the recommendation of the dealer as was my bad experience once.
For me, I would be unhappy for a fortnight, then after a good repair, pretty much forget about it. It is a car, nothing special about installing a new fender, Porsche paint is not anything special..... not a Faberge egg.
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Ouch! Would be my worst nightmare. But the best news is you're okay!!
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Sorry for your accident ... glad you are ok though.
Your insurance company adjuster won't get it right for a number of reasons. Hopefully he/she will have a Porsche expert (Porsche authorized shop perhaps) give them an opinion - or accept an opinion from a Porsche expert you provide. The rear quarter panel where you are hit is a continuous piece so much more expensive to fix it correctly versus a cut-weld-sand-paint job (which you do not want). Also there may be (reasonably probable) additional damage to engine/suspension, and hopefully not frame. But there is a fair amount of weight in that area of the vehicle so any movement will have some consequences. Good luck. Keep us posted on your findings if you can.
BTW - I spoke with the people (forget the shop manager's name) at Momentum BMW Collision (Porsche certified repair shop) concerning some body repair work on my other Porsche. He seemed pretty good, but I cannot attest to their ability as I have not yet decided to pursue the repairs.
Your insurance company adjuster won't get it right for a number of reasons. Hopefully he/she will have a Porsche expert (Porsche authorized shop perhaps) give them an opinion - or accept an opinion from a Porsche expert you provide. The rear quarter panel where you are hit is a continuous piece so much more expensive to fix it correctly versus a cut-weld-sand-paint job (which you do not want). Also there may be (reasonably probable) additional damage to engine/suspension, and hopefully not frame. But there is a fair amount of weight in that area of the vehicle so any movement will have some consequences. Good luck. Keep us posted on your findings if you can.
BTW - I spoke with the people (forget the shop manager's name) at Momentum BMW Collision (Porsche certified repair shop) concerning some body repair work on my other Porsche. He seemed pretty good, but I cannot attest to their ability as I have not yet decided to pursue the repairs.