Will a turbo engine fit in a C4S?
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Exploring options to fix my 997.1 c4s which needs a rebuild and Turbodan mentioned there is a turbo engine for sale. Am curious if this is a real option. I suspect not but worth asking
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It may *fit* in the engine compartment of a widebody 997, but as they say, "the devils in the details.."
A few things off the top of my head..
Turbo ECU is different and would have to be retrofitted..
Trubos have 3 rads up front and would need to be fitted this way.. you may be able to get away with a C4S front bumper..
Body in white is most likely different, so you would have to add the mounting posts for the intercoolers and make holes for the intercooler hoses to pass into the engine compartment.
You’d need a turbo (or equivalent) rear bumper to support the turbo exhaust..
You’d need a new exhaust as the classified one doesn’t seem to include it.
Turbo (or equivalent) decklid so as to provide the proper airflow to the turbo airbox.
Not sure if your car is 6MT or tip, but I’m sure you’d need a turbo tranny to handle the motor’s power.
I bet getting all the systems to play nice (PASM, PSM, etc. etc ) would not be easy.
Etc. etc. etc.
Would be quite a project, I’d say..
A few things off the top of my head..
Turbo ECU is different and would have to be retrofitted..
Trubos have 3 rads up front and would need to be fitted this way.. you may be able to get away with a C4S front bumper..
Body in white is most likely different, so you would have to add the mounting posts for the intercoolers and make holes for the intercooler hoses to pass into the engine compartment.
You’d need a turbo (or equivalent) rear bumper to support the turbo exhaust..
You’d need a new exhaust as the classified one doesn’t seem to include it.
Turbo (or equivalent) decklid so as to provide the proper airflow to the turbo airbox.
Not sure if your car is 6MT or tip, but I’m sure you’d need a turbo tranny to handle the motor’s power.
I bet getting all the systems to play nice (PASM, PSM, etc. etc ) would not be easy.
Etc. etc. etc.
Would be quite a project, I’d say..
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Vern1, sorry to hear about your scoring issue. I didn't post there because the thread was like reading a suspense novel, and somewhat dreaded turning the page....I have the same car 06 C4S, and in Vancouver. While not so extreme in temp as Toronto, still "northern" right?
Knock on wood, given your position, I'd view a couple of possibilities if keeping the car - go factory stock replacement all the way, or build a frankenstein monster of a car (tasteful, of course). The turbo option would certainly be interesting. Keep us up to date on your latest developments.
Knock on wood, given your position, I'd view a couple of possibilities if keeping the car - go factory stock replacement all the way, or build a frankenstein monster of a car (tasteful, of course). The turbo option would certainly be interesting. Keep us up to date on your latest developments.
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Saabin covered at least a good chunk of the issues - doubt it's worth it trying to do the retrofit and ending up with something less than optimal. The best way to go is to have Jake at FSI build you a bulletproof 4.0. It will be more durable, run better, etc and likely not cost you much if any more than the $16k turbo engine plus all the parts and labor to try and make that work - actually the FSI motor should be thousands less. Other have also looked at trying to do a GT3 motor and I don't think the consensus was that it would be any easier.
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I'd love to see if the 996 renegade ls swap could be applied to a 997 with some modification...
And perhaps turbo'D, because if your going Frankenstein why not go full Frankenstein
And perhaps turbo'D, because if your going Frankenstein why not go full Frankenstein
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Vern1, sorry to hear about your scoring issue. I didn't post there because the thread was like reading a suspense novel, and somewhat dreaded turning the page....I have the same car 06 C4S, and in Vancouver. While not so extreme in temp as Toronto, still "northern" right?
Knock on wood, given your position, I'd view a couple of possibilities if keeping the car - go factory stock replacement all the way, or build a frankenstein monster of a car (tasteful, of course). The turbo option would certainly be interesting. Keep us up to date on your latest developments.
Knock on wood, given your position, I'd view a couple of possibilities if keeping the car - go factory stock replacement all the way, or build a frankenstein monster of a car (tasteful, of course). The turbo option would certainly be interesting. Keep us up to date on your latest developments.
I will not go stock as it just exposes me to all the same issues all over again. Looking at either re-sleeved engine with and upgraded IMS or this plus bored to 4L. Don't think that qualifies as Frankenstein....
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Saabin covered at least a good chunk of the issues - doubt it's worth it trying to do the retrofit and ending up with something less than optimal. The best way to go is to have Jake at FSI build you a bulletproof 4.0. It will be more durable, run better, etc and likely not cost you much if any more than the $16k turbo engine plus all the parts and labor to try and make that work - actually the FSI motor should be thousands less. Other have also looked at trying to do a GT3 motor and I don't think the consensus was that it would be any easier.