H&R spring instal
03-28-2016 | 08:58 PM
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03-28-2016 | 11:00 PM
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Yep, I basically agree with you, like I said, I've concluded you just have to try something... I personally don't think it's realistic for most people to "try out" every option unless you have access to an inordinate amount of cars.
The *only* quibble I have is with Sandwedge's claim that the H&R drop rate relative to the others is "well established", so to speak. That's simply not true. I have found wildly different claims on that very issue in my research.
Again, not crapping on anyone or any brand here! All I'm saying is that "research" on this topic seems nearly futile, and will not substitute for direct experience. I'll let y'all know what I think of my Techarts when they go on (hahaha. See how I just contradicted my own damn self?!)
The *only* quibble I have is with Sandwedge's claim that the H&R drop rate relative to the others is "well established", so to speak. That's simply not true. I have found wildly different claims on that very issue in my research.
Again, not crapping on anyone or any brand here! All I'm saying is that "research" on this topic seems nearly futile, and will not substitute for direct experience. I'll let y'all know what I think of my Techarts when they go on (hahaha. See how I just contradicted my own damn self?!)
If you can find any kind of testimonial that supports the opposite I'd love to see it. I never saw any such thing.
03-29-2016 | 02:20 AM
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Well, I can assure you that I didn't lie intentionally. The H&R drop has always been advertised as 1.25" and the Eibach/Techart drop has always been advertised as 1" even. Incidentally, my current GTS had Eibachs when I bought it. I switched to H&R's and measured before and after. Guess what? .25" lower with H&R.
If you can find any kind of testimonial that supports the opposite I'd love to see it. I never saw any such thing.
If you can find any kind of testimonial that supports the opposite I'd love to see it. I never saw any such thing.
03-29-2016 | 10:22 AM
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Well, I can assure you that I didn't lie intentionally. The H&R drop has always been advertised as 1.25" and the Eibach/Techart drop has always been advertised as 1" even. Incidentally, my current GTS had Eibachs when I bought it. I switched to H&R's and measured before and after. Guess what? .25" lower with H&R.
If you can find any kind of testimonial that supports the opposite I'd love to see it. I never saw any such thing.
If you can find any kind of testimonial that supports the opposite I'd love to see it. I never saw any such thing.
03-29-2016 | 03:37 PM
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Sigh... This is getting tiresome. Sandwedge, I did not accuse you of lying. I simply said it is not true that the drops of these products are universally accepted and established, and that is fact. Advertising notwithstanding, there are MANY inconsistent claims. I really don't feel the need to waste yet more time proving this to you, and I don't see why it should matter anyway. I haven't told anyone not to get any particular spring, nor have I made any value judgments about any springs or anyone's choice in springs, yours included.
03-29-2016 | 06:33 PM
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Personally, I think both the techart and the eibach look worlds better than even SPASM. If you have to have your wheels tucked a bit, you like your car to be a gentleman's cruiser or you drive on consistently bad roads with risk of hitting that front lip then the techbachs are the way to go. If you can push your wheels out, drive on consistently smooth roads (no potholes or speedbumps) or want to be a bit more aggressive looking then i honestly think H&R look best. And so we're clear before there's any dissent, this is all fact because I say it is fact. QED
03-30-2016 | 05:00 PM
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aren't EIBACHS/Techarts only like 5mm lower than SPASM? (15mm lower than PASM?)
Sexy time!
Personally, I think both the techart and the eibach look worlds better than even SPASM. If you have to have your wheels tucked a bit, you like your car to be a gentleman's cruiser or you drive on consistently bad roads with risk of hitting that front lip then the techbachs are the way to go. If you can push your wheels out, drive on consistently smooth roads (no potholes or speedbumps) or want to be a bit more aggressive looking then i honestly think H&R look best. And so we're clear before there's any dissent, this is all fact because I say it is fact. QED
Personally, I think both the techart and the eibach look worlds better than even SPASM. If you have to have your wheels tucked a bit, you like your car to be a gentleman's cruiser or you drive on consistently bad roads with risk of hitting that front lip then the techbachs are the way to go. If you can push your wheels out, drive on consistently smooth roads (no potholes or speedbumps) or want to be a bit more aggressive looking then i honestly think H&R look best. And so we're clear before there's any dissent, this is all fact because I say it is fact. QED