andy92782

Thanks for posting this! Since you've had some time with this setup what are your longer term thoughts on the sound from the Fabspeed? I kinda like this idea more than doing an exhaust - it's easily reversible and (I think) the sound doesn't change much unless you're *really* on the gas.

StormRune

I still think the sound is a key instrument in the orchestra that includes the intake, the PSE with Sharkwerks bypass, and the new sounds from the RSS engine mounts. I think I have all of the audible components just right for me now. It is also a plus that when I want the car to be more subtle to others in the area and I switch the PSE to be quieter (I added a switch since that video), that I still get the nice intake howl on the inside all of the time whenever I'm accelerating more heavily. Don't expect an overwhelming difference though, but it is definitely a very notable plus when under throttle.

Philster

Storm, I just lost a long response to your post. In short:

>Good video with earbuds
>Yes, I can tell what it sounds like -- it comes through.
>Intake: Even after the exhaust mods, without the EVO intake, 4500+ RPM was lame. With EVO intake, above 4500 RPM it sounds like hell is inhaling something now.

My exhaust: Replaced mufflers with glasspack resonators. 80-90% volume of bypass pipes, much higher quality.

Verdict for Andy: Catback and good intake. You will like. Make every effort you can to get around and hear different setups.

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Philster

This is with my exhaust mod and stock intake:

StormRune

Philster, actually you didn't lose your post. It showed up on the Oct 2014 thread that I linked to a few posts back. Nicely described!

I couldn't help but grin when I heard how nice and angry your car sounds in the video! That does seem a lot nicer than the straight pipes I've heard. You are a bit braver than me though.

Philster

LOL... I had so many damn browser windows open.

I have a Borla system waiting for Spring. The glasspack test was just that.

It's intoxicating, but too loud under load at low RPM... and after 30 mins, it's outright tiresome. But every quick spin makes me want to keep it. Every long ride and I can't take it anymore.

Oh well. When Spring is here, the Borla goes on. I did hear it in person.

sf_c63

Good point...I usually have my car listed in my sig but I guess I forgot to do so for this forum!

I have a 2006 C2S with Fister cans and the helmholtz resonator blocked off.

The guy in the vid uses a K&N FIPK intake which I used to have on my S2000 and at least with that car it had a much louder intake "bark". I know in the S2K community the K&N intake was preferred because it was a short-ram and the filter was a bit more out in the open thus allowing the driver to hear more of the intake than other designs like a cold-air.

Again - I'm not interested in a claimed +30hp (Fabspeed), I'm just chasing after a bit more sound in the cabin to enhance the driving experience. I'm leaning towards picking up the K&N intake since the price is reasonable and it's a relatively easy install. Can't think of a reason why I wouldn't want it.

Also - thanks for clarifying that intakes typically do not alter the torque curve. I was thinking of when you change to 200cell cats.

DutchNy

I have a 997.2 4S and have a K&N, IPD and Sharwerks center delete and it sounds just like that inside the cabin

orange260z

DutchNY, what k&n do you have on your 997.2? it seems they only make the intake kit for the gen 1 cars.

Cysco

997.2 C4S PDK owner here.

I just installed the Fabspeed carbon fiber cold air intake on my car. Standard non-PSE exhaust (for now) (Thanks for the help StormRune)

I noticed no obvious change in performance except for maybe a slight increase in throttle response. The sound though was very noticeable. The best way to describe it in text would be it went from wwwhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa to WWWHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA (lol, say it out loud. I know you want to)

The sound is very noticeable above 4k RPM. StormRune's video above is a good example of what my car sounds like. Perhaps a bit more tame give the standard exhaust, but the engine sound is very similar.

I think changing out the air intake is a really worthwhile mod. Not only does it make a noticeable improvement to the sound of the car, but is also an easy DIY job. In that way, I think it's the perfect entry/gateway mod.

DutchNy

I took K&N Filters and modified the stock box and inlets from the tail

John@Fabspeed

Love the description haha. Thanks for the kind words and enjoy the enhancements!

orange260z

Thanks Cysco, DutchNy!

The sound of the 997.1 in the Smoking Tire video and all the comments on this thread have got me really interested in the Fabspeed intake. I've had intakes on other cars before and have enjoyed the added sound at high throttle openings.

However, my two main concerns about an intake in the 997.2 are
(1) hot air from the engine compartment, despite the shield (much hotter than a front-engined car with an intake up in a front corner) - this car is a summer DD and Ottawa summers can be quite warm;
(2) Ottawa has a lot of heavy rain in the summer, so I have concern about water ingestion due to the very short and direct run into the motor, without anywhere for the water to settle out.

John, Stormrune, I'd love to hear your comments on these concerns as well!

Thanks all

Cysco

You sound just like I did before I purchased one. I had the exact same concerns. There was a thread recently where a user with a fabsped intake took detailed air temperature readings of the air going through the fabspeed. His finding were that there was no noticeable difference in air temp. I'd recommend digging around and trying to find that thread. Keep in mind that those two air ducts sit right above the cones with the lid closed. There's a lot of external air being pushed down onto those cones.

As far a water goes, that was my biggest concern. I even emailed fabspeed before buying and their reply was that they've never once in their history making air intakes had anyone report any issue with water.

FWIW, I just got done washing my car for the first time with the intake and here's a photo of the engine bay. When I opened the engine lid some water dropped down onto the center pipe (I dried that up) the cones were bone dry. I was even pretty liberal with the water just wanting to see how wet it'd get with a lot of forced water. This elevated all my concerns.

Here's a photo I just snapped post-car wash.

StormRune

I think Cysco has it all pretty well covered. I haven't had any water problems either. If the filters do ever end up a little wet the air coming across them will dry them off pretty quickly when the engine is running in any case. After I've washed mine and let them drip dry until they are just damp, I take the car out for a sporting run to dry them the rest of the way off anyway and the car seems completely unfazed.

Note that the OEM filters also are circular and the front edge of the filter media also sits directly below the ducts and get the same exposure to any water/mist coming through the ducts.