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Old 10-01-2015 | 11:45 AM
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Looks nice to me...a bit over priced, but a serious buyer can negotiate that into a deal. If sport chrono not present and 6sp man. are what you are after, throw an offer their way.
Old 10-01-2015 | 12:36 PM
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If you love the color and options - I think low $70s is a fair price.

Is there any warranty left since its a 2012?
Old 10-01-2015 | 01:35 PM
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Looking at 2012 C4 GTSs on the Porsche pre-owned site, see attached screenshot, it looks to me like a price in the $70s is a screaming deal, with all others well into the $80s, albeit with fewer miles and CPO, except the last, which is comparable miles and no CPO.

Old 10-01-2015 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Cream
If you love the color and options - I think low $70s is a fair price.

Is there any warranty left since its a 2012?
Where are you getting your figures to suggest the car is fairly valued in the low $70,000 range.

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Old 10-01-2015 | 04:02 PM
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I've seen slightly abused 997 GT3s, arguably more desireable, selling for low 80s, high 70s and that is with 20-40k miles.

That being said; if you are in the market for a "GT" car you are ultimately paying for getting exactly what you want. If you have to pay 10k more for a GTS that u want vs one that is meh, do it.
Old 10-01-2015 | 04:52 PM
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From my research I think the mid 70s is the price range this should be in. Many are correct that for the same money a GT car can be found. I guess it depends on how badly I want it. I think I am going to hold off on this one. I appreciate the input as always! Great group of enthusiasts on this board. Feels good to be back and hopefully as an owner soon....
Old 10-01-2015 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 997v2cabrio
Very nice looking. Love the Alcantara, however I would not buy it for three reasons.

1) You would be the 3'rd owner.
2) Miles are a bit too high
3) No PDK

These are my opinion.
Great input there, 997v2cabrio. This is the second post I've seen of yours where you think the miles are too high and the car doesn't have PDK. So I guess that if YOU don't like cars with more than zero miles and without an automatic transmission, then the rest of US should share your expert opinion and steer clear?
Old 10-01-2015 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by HelpMeHelpU
Looking at 2012 C4 GTSs on the Porsche pre-owned site, see attached screenshot, it looks to me like a price in the $70s is a screaming deal, with all others well into the $80s, albeit with fewer miles and CPO, except the last, which is comparable miles and no CPO.

Yeah - but those are asking prices. One thing I found when I was looking for my 997 was that asking prices for P-cars are all over the place, and often higher than they're probably worth. Porsche owners are very proud of their cars and many think their particular car is worth way more than they really are. If it's a fairly priced car it will sell quick, while many with a too high ask will be in the for sale section for a long time.
Old 10-01-2015 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by larpy
From my research I think the mid 70s is the price range this should be in. Many are correct that for the same money a GT car can be found. I guess it depends on how badly I want it. I think I am going to hold off on this one. I appreciate the input as always! Great group of enthusiasts on this board. Feels good to be back and hopefully as an owner soon....
Data point of one: my '12 GTS cabrio with 22k miles and many goodies (sticker ~135k) cost me high-70s about 12 months ago, from a P-car dealer in St. Louis. We're in a year past that, in a private trade, and a lower sticker... so low 70s for this one is a fair price. I wouldn't pay more than 73-74k. Winter is coming...
Old 10-01-2015 | 07:29 PM
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I have found another I am looking at with 10000 less miles and in great shape for about $5000 less. I will see what happens. I am not in a hurry!

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Old 10-02-2015 | 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by larpy
I have found another I am looking at with 10000 less miles and in great shape for about $5000 less. I will see what happens. I am not in a hurry!
there are plenty under $80k on Porsches site!

There were 2 C4 GTS's under 80k as well
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Originally Posted by awrryan
My opinion:

1. Who cares.
2. Now I've seen it all where 23,000 miles on a 3 or 4 year old car is too high
3. Thank g-d. Manual is more fun (even if slightly slower than PDK all things being equal)

Car looks beautiful. Love the aero kit.
Yes indeed -- 997's are built so poorly they are worthless and undriveable after 20k miles.


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Old 10-02-2015 | 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by larpy
From my research I think the mid 70s is the price range this should be in. Many are correct that for the same money a GT car can be found. I guess it depends on how badly I want it. I think I am going to hold off on this one. I appreciate the input as always! Great group of enthusiasts on this board. Feels good to be back and hopefully as an owner soon....
...but seriously...

if a 997 GT3 is within your realm of consideration as you shop in $80k range, I would strongly suggest you find a way to drive one (although I think roughly in the same price range you it would be a 7.1GT3 vs a newer GTS).

The GTS is a very very fine car without doubt...but the GT3 is entirely a different kettle of fish. Depending on your intended use one might suit you much better than the other.
Old 10-03-2015 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Cream
there are plenty under $80k on Porsches site! There were 2 C4 GTS's under 80k as well
All those under $80k were Cabs and C2 GTSs (not 4), which obviously makes a difference.
Old 10-03-2015 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by HelpMeHelpU
All those under $80k were Cabs and C2 GTSs (not 4), which obviously makes a difference.
Some would probably argue that the regular GTS is more special than the 4GTS. It's the only RWD 997 wide body except for the GT3RS. The 4GTS comes closer to a C4S with X51 and a few other tweaks here and there.


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