View Poll Results: What is the current 2nd best road tire on the market for the 997?
Michelin PS2
35
53.85%
Bridgestone Potenza RE050A
6
9.23%
Pirelli P Zero
2
3.08%
Hancook Ventus
6
9.23%
Toyo Proxes 1
0
0%
Continental Extremecontact
3
4.62%
Other (indicate in comments)
13
20.00%
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Poll: Current Best Tire Choice
#46
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Maybe we should give Michelin some feedback about their supply chain. I did.
http://michelin.fluidsurveys.com/sur...ore-march2015/
http://michelin.fluidsurveys.com/sur...ore-march2015/
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#48
Three Wheelin'
They ARE here in 'Murica, been out for a few months now in a lot of sizes, and instantly became required to win. I've done two events on RE-71R and they're fantastic tires. You just have to make the available sizes work for you- friend of mine with a GT3 is running Rival S in the rear and RE-71R in the front.
And you're wrong to hold out. Ditch those all-seasons and drive something better! .
And you're wrong to hold out. Ditch those all-seasons and drive something better! .
I now know/understand the issue with available sizes, which explains why I wasn't seeing the new tires in searches.
Thanks for the insight.
#49
Burning Brakes
For the Jersey Shore I like the Conti's DWS and have them on my 09 C4S year round. Great tire, had them on a Cadillac CTS Coupe prior and they corrected all the poor driving that occurred with summer sport tires such as jumping when turning, backing up and other areas where the very hard side walls created problems in cold weather. I've had my C4S out in the snow and they performed just fine.
#50
Burning Brakes
I personally wouldn't run DWS in the summer. Kinda like running a rain tire on a dry track, why wear out the S layer in summer driving? I have a pair of scruffy lobsters with DWS's for the winter, now winter in N. AL is pretty tame but they do handle rain and 40 deg temps (the common Southern winter scenario) really well. Have S-04's on Turbo rims for late Spring, Summer and most of the Fall.
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I've run re-11 on the street for a couple of years. I wouldn't say they are noisy but definitely stiff. No problem on smooth pavement but can be jarring on rough stuff (I live in new england so lots of that). I have a 997 C2 with stock suspension mind you.
#53
My initial reactions are:
-RE11 is *much* quieter than my Michellin PS2s ever were. The PS2s were miserablely loud at the end. I can actually hear my sports exhaust now in detail while cruising. I could actually listen to the radio now if I wanted to (I usually do not).
-RE11 turn-in appears to be quicker than the PS2s
-At "cold" temps, the PS2s are super sticky and every bit of dirt gets attached to them and flung on the car. In comparison, the RE11s do not seem to be as sticky at "cold" temps. It is a nice change to not hear every little rock and piece of dirt flung at my car by the PS2s as I drive down my driveway. Not sure how this will translate on the track at hot temps.
-PS2s is slightly smoother around town. At the recommendation from a friend with RE11s, I am running pressures -2 front and -4 rear vs. the PS2. Ride quality is pretty superb.
-PS2s have a bigger rim protector
I will update post track experience this weekend. My PS2s literally disintegrated before my eyes, which is why I opted for the RE11s on track. PSSs are obviously out of stock and not an option.
After this weekend, I will also advise on how the S04s are on the car. I plan on using those for street driving only.
This is on a 997.2 4S.
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Yesterday I ended up un-mounting my winter tires, and mounting on my two sets of wheels a set of RE11s and a set of S04s. As I am tracking the car this weekend, I am running the RE11s right now to break them in before the event.
I will update post track experience this weekend. My PS2s literally disintegrated before my eyes, which is why I opted for the RE11s on track. PSSs are obviously out of stock and not an option.
After this weekend, I will also advise on how the S04s are on the car. I plan on using those for street driving only.
This is on a 997.2 4S.
I will update post track experience this weekend. My PS2s literally disintegrated before my eyes, which is why I opted for the RE11s on track. PSSs are obviously out of stock and not an option.
After this weekend, I will also advise on how the S04s are on the car. I plan on using those for street driving only.
This is on a 997.2 4S.
#55
Drifting
RE-71R has replaced the RE-11; it's everything the RE-11 was, but better in pretty much every way measurable. Unless you think stickiness is a bad thing, in which case I guess it's worse?
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Originally Posted by sjfehr
RE-71R has replaced the RE-11; it's everything the RE-11 was, but better in pretty much every way measurable. Unless you think stickiness is a bad thing, in which case I guess it's worse?
#57
For those of us who were hoping we could get Michelin PSS tires, I stopped at a local Discount Tire dealer in Alpharetta, GA today and Michelin told them the tires have been back ordered since February. Appears to me that Michelin is headed toward the PS2 tires at a higher cost and lower tread wear rating. Go figure!!!
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The RE 71R line will not be filled out until next Spring at the earliest and is much more agressive (read stickier). The RE 11 will most likely be around for a while longer. As far as fitment goes the 305/30R19 will fit fine on the rear of both wide and narrow body 997. My experience with RE 11 on a 997S has been similar to alexaqui. Better handling tire than the PS2 and noticeably quieter.
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#59
Three Wheelin'
I had the previous version of the RE71R on my BMW years ago. Then they were a super sticky track compound that you could not run full tread. Tire Rack would shave them before delivery to 3/32 or so. They were the most fun you could have on the street but they did not last 10,000 miles and would probably not last that long on a Porsche rear. Is the new version a different, more street-friendly tire?
Maybe Michelin is taking time out to get an N Spec rating since so many Porsches are running the PSS and loving them. I have had the Pilot Sport 2's and the Pilot Super Sports and would never spend the money again to upgrade to the PS2 for my style of driving.
Is Damon in the house? He should know the inside story.
Maybe Michelin is taking time out to get an N Spec rating since so many Porsches are running the PSS and loving them. I have had the Pilot Sport 2's and the Pilot Super Sports and would never spend the money again to upgrade to the PS2 for my style of driving.
Is Damon in the house? He should know the inside story.
#60
Race Car
I'm going to start running Michelin PSS on all my cars. Going to ditch R-compounds - great track tires but they wear fast. I'm able to get a solid 30,000 miles on my non tracked 911 with Michelin PSS. The R-compounds are lucky if they see 16,000 miles with light track use.