Carmichael

Why did you not like them?

malexgcab

Will 305 still be "flush to fender" if the offset is for WB (offset - 52) on NB car (offset -67)?

Quadcammer

S04s will likely go on my car while the shockingly overpriced PS2s wear out.

OKB

thats my tire Potenza s04

speedracerf4i

I have V12 on my 3 series BMW replacing Bridgestones. I honestly think that the traction of V12 is inferior and after 3 years of use, the V12's becomes very noisy and crashy.

On the other hand, I just put 4 new MPSS on my 09 C4S and couldn't be happier. The MPSS was $1,400 - $70 rebate at American's Tire and the V12 was $997 for a set (all installed). So the difference was only $300. I figure that MPSS has treadwear of 300 vs 280 for the V12 so the cost would eventually be even.

Petza914

If you're using the same wheels with the tires, you're talking about the tire being 5mm wider inside and outside. That's less than 1/4". They fit with stock suspension settings too. My wife's C2S has GT3 wheels with stock C2S alignment spec, but a but less toe and a bit less rear camber to prolong the tire life. Less rear camber would be more likely to cause a fitment issue since the top wouldn't tip in as far, but it's fine too. On my C2S I'm running Champion RS171s with Nitto Invos and have a full RSS / Bilstein suspension and am lowered running GT3 alignment specs. No issues with 305s for me either, but we're both using wheels with the proper specs for the NB cars.

Gonzo911

MPSS's have been on backorder since February. If available, I would have gone with those for sure.

Para82

I had them on my 997 one time because I read all these rave reviews (total garbage). You drive a 911, why anyone would save a few bucks on tires which are critical to your car's performance is beyond me. Scary as hell at 100mph+

Lvt19672

+1 why go cheap on tires which you will be using on the greatest sports car in the world.

Gonzo911

I should mention that I don't track my car, but it is My DD.

M3 Defector

I bought my MPSS from TireRack in March no problem, but I did have 305s in the rear, maybe that's the difference.

Johnny DB

Overall feel...the car just drives different. I also notice a tire noise reduction with the MSS by ~25-30%. I changed out the winter storage wheels I've been running since I've pulled the car out about 3 weeks ago (OEM wheels with V12). When I was swapping to my summer wheels (OEM with MSS) I noticed even touching them they were softer and stickier compared to the V12. I checked the manufactured date and they are within 6 months of each other with equal mileage.

As a bonus, the MSS look way more aggressive on the OEM wheels. I don't know if it's the rim saver lip on the tire or what but when I was looking at the Turbo with the V12s on I thought to myself that I should have bought 18mm rear spacers instead of the 15mm. As soon as I put the MSS on I was glad I went with the 15mm spacers. I took some pictures and will try to post them later.

Sucks these are on back order...buy nice or buy twice.

Johnny DB

Exactly. It's like putting regular gas in instead of premium to save a few bucks.

mopar bob

They feel greasy on the street. They feel like the *** is coming around on the highway at 55 -75 mph. My Michelin Alpine snow tires feel better than the V12's.
I run Bridgestone RE11 for a summer tire, I also used them on my 944S2 and would get 3 seasons out of them as a DD with no track days. Why buy a Porsche and put greasy high mileage tires on it and lose that special feeling that a Porsche has.

Edgy01

As many will tell you, the tire quality makes all the difference on the 911. This factor has been the case for decades. Don't skimp on tires. Simply plan ahead better in the future. Never go with an inferior tire because you will not be able to exploit the capabilities of the car.