Notices
997 Forum 2005-2012
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Would you trade your 997 straight up for a 991?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-27-2015, 02:48 AM
  #46  
KNS
Three Wheelin'
 
KNS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,545
Received 38 Likes on 27 Posts
Default

The 991 has a flat six engine stuck in the back so they call it a 911 - that's where the similarity ends. It really doesn't look like a 911 anymore. It's a boat (okay, a high performance boat). I have zero interest in owning one.
Old 03-27-2015, 03:10 AM
  #47  
TheLex
Instructor
 
TheLex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

No, I would NOT trade my 997.2 GTS for a 991. I love the widebody voluptuous rear end of my 997. I love the steering. And with a stock powerkit, the car has more power than I am capable of using safely on the street. The only thing I am left wanting is a GT3-RS wing in the rear and the aero front dam in the front to go with it.
Old 03-27-2015, 07:10 AM
  #48  
sambb
Instructor
 
sambb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: 997.2 GTS
Posts: 194
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

i would upgrade and plan to, to the 991. Better interior, exterior is more sleek, and more modern. Love the look. Only 911 i didn't like was 996.
Old 03-27-2015, 08:08 AM
  #49  
gota911
Newbies Hospitality Director
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
gota911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
Posts: 18,084
Likes: 0
Received 34 Likes on 33 Posts
Default

Yes, I would swap for a 991 in a heartbeat.

I find the "too big" and "boat" comments about the 991 hilarious, especially since the 991 is the same width as the 997 and whopping 1" longer than the 997.

You think you don't like the 991? Wait until the 991.2 comes out with turbo engines in all of the variants except for the GT3.
Old 03-27-2015, 09:21 AM
  #50  
Para82
Race Car
 
Para82's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bogota / Navarre Beach
Posts: 4,191
Received 38 Likes on 24 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by sambb
i would upgrade and plan to, to the 991. Better interior, exterior is more sleek, and more modern. Love the look. Only 911 i didn't like was 996.
Exterior is not more sleek - more bloated maybe, larger wheels and diluted ironed out 996 like hips yes but not more sleek.
Old 03-27-2015, 09:25 AM
  #51  
Para82
Race Car
 
Para82's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bogota / Navarre Beach
Posts: 4,191
Received 38 Likes on 24 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by gota911
Yes, I would swap for a 991 in a heartbeat.

I find the "too big" and "boat" comments about the 991 hilarious, especially since the 991 is the same width as the 997 and whopping 1" longer than the 997.

You think you don't like the 991? Wait until the 991.2 comes out with turbo engines in all of the variants except for the GT3.
I have met very few car enthusiasts who don't think the 991 looks like a fat pig.
Old 03-27-2015, 11:23 AM
  #52  
Gonzo911
Rat Balls
Rennlist Member
 
Gonzo911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Scottsdale AZ, USA
Posts: 3,636
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts
Default

I had driven a 991 on 2 separate occasions after I sold my 996. It was a completely different feel. Then I drove the 997.2 that I eventually bought. I admit the price was a huge factor, but the 997 still had that raw sports car feel (most of you know what I am talking about).

Just last weekend, I came out of a store and a black 991 Cab was parked right next to me. I can honestly say that I preferred the lines of my car. The 991 isn't much bigger, but it looks like it was stepped on. I prefer the more classic 911 stance of my car.

The 997.2 is the last great 911...until the next one comes along.
Old 03-27-2015, 11:32 AM
  #53  
Mbiondo
Pro
 
Mbiondo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 588
Received 32 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

Every major car magazine and reviewer has pretty much said the same line wrt the 991: “great car, but does not make you scream, “I have to have this car”” It is precisely the feeling I got when I first looked at it in person, with said feeling only to be reinforced when I test drove it. I fell in love with the 997 the very first day I saw it at the dealer, parked right next to a 996. For me, it was a no-brainer; it was, by all means, an impulse buy.
I really don’t have anything against the 991. But, just like the 996 failed to inspire, so does the 991.
Old 03-27-2015, 01:12 PM
  #54  
Ben Z
Three Wheelin'
 
Ben Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,262
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Para82
Why the dislike for PDK? Have you tried both on the track?
I don't dislike PDK, I just don't want it in a Porsche. I've never driven on a track in my life and have no desire to but I have driven PDK on the street. Using a clutch and shifting gears with a stick is an essential part of the sports car experience to me.
Old 03-27-2015, 01:46 PM
  #55  
robh75
Instructor
 
robh75's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NJ Shore
Posts: 179
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by gota911
I find the "too big" and "boat" comments about the 991 hilarious, especially since the 991 is the same width as the 997 and whopping 1" longer than the 997.
I completely agree. Come on guys, every generation has gotten bigger but in reality the 991 is not much bigger compared to the 997. The cabin feels a lot bigger, which is smart engineering... but the car itself really is not much bigger.
Old 03-27-2015, 02:19 PM
  #56  
SpeedyD
Burning Brakes
 
SpeedyD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,215
Received 168 Likes on 115 Posts
Default

991 looks much bigger in person. It is the proportions. As for "sleek" I actually kinda agree it looks a bit more "sleek" because of the greater rake in the windshield, but to me it looks much less aggressive.

The 996 looks more sleek than the 993 but the 993 looks more aggressive than the 996. Similar thing here. The 991 has opted to hide (or slightly reduce) the 911 shape in favor of the traditional exotic shape. The crease on the rear, along with the windshield rake and position of b pillars all add to that.

I like certain elements of the 991 look but I just can't help but see it as a less interesting design vs. the 997. Much like I find the pinnacle of Ferrari design to be the 288 GTO, and also find the F355 more appealing (other than reliability) than the 360 Modena... The latter reminds me too much of a bowrider / $30k boat or something...

My guess is that the 997 will be significantly more favored / sought after in about 10 years, once the newness and frankly fractional performance improvement of the 991 becomes completely meaningless.

Given I couldn't care less about the newness / age of the car, and don't care about 1/10th in the 0-60 stats (and don't want PDK) I ignore those elements... in the 991 I just see a more bloated looking, more GT / "rich guy" mobile, than traditional sports car... Still an awesome car.
Old 03-27-2015, 03:19 PM
  #57  
robh75
Instructor
 
robh75's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NJ Shore
Posts: 179
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by SpeedyD
My guess is that the 997 will be significantly more favored / sought after in about 10 years
It will be interesting to see. It looks like the 991.1 will be the last naturally aspirated non-GT 911, since starting with the 991.2 the Carreras will all be turbos. So I kind of think the 991 will be more sought after than 997 for that reason.
Old 03-27-2015, 03:28 PM
  #58  
SpeedyD
Burning Brakes
 
SpeedyD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,215
Received 168 Likes on 115 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by robh75
It will be interesting to see. It looks like the 991.1 will be the last naturally aspirated non-GT 911, since starting with the 991.2 the Carreras will all be turbos. So I kind of think the 991 will be more sought after than 997 for that reason.
It's too long a list "last NA non-GT etc"... It isn't a meaningful departure so long as some NA motor Porsches remain. It will be the whole of the car that will matter and the 991 with electric steering and a further move towards GT will not be judged as favorably. The 993 ticked more boxes than simply last air cooled... If it looked like the 996 it would not claim nearly the position it does now...
Old 03-27-2015, 03:41 PM
  #59  
skynet
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
skynet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I got to agree with SpeedyD, well said.

Hmm, new trolling signature could be.......

991 = tomorrow's 996
Old 03-27-2015, 04:57 PM
  #60  
Para82
Race Car
 
Para82's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bogota / Navarre Beach
Posts: 4,191
Received 38 Likes on 24 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by skynet
I got to agree with SpeedyD, well said.

Hmm, new trolling signature could be.......

991 = tomorrow's 996
I think that's quite possible, especially if Porsche tightens up the platform visually to be more like the 993/997 in later years.


Quick Reply: Would you trade your 997 straight up for a 991?



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 04:14 AM.