Suspension for 997.2 GTS
#1
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Suspension for 997.2 GTS
Hey all,
This may be a very specific question but I'm hoping someone knows the answer.
I have a '12 997.2 GTS and am looking for the product number to the Eibach/Techart lowering springs.
I called Eibach directly and Dave at Eibach could tell me everything you could possibly know about the three spring sets available for the 997.2 except which one would fit the GTS.
The options were the 7222.140, the 7220.140 and the 7217.140. Differences were in spring rate via coil diameter mostly in the front springs (more weight in front with the AWD models i.e. TT, C4, etc).
Anybody out there have any idea which product fits the 997.2 GTS?
This may be a very specific question but I'm hoping someone knows the answer.
I have a '12 997.2 GTS and am looking for the product number to the Eibach/Techart lowering springs.
I called Eibach directly and Dave at Eibach could tell me everything you could possibly know about the three spring sets available for the 997.2 except which one would fit the GTS.
The options were the 7222.140, the 7220.140 and the 7217.140. Differences were in spring rate via coil diameter mostly in the front springs (more weight in front with the AWD models i.e. TT, C4, etc).
Anybody out there have any idea which product fits the 997.2 GTS?
#2
Three Wheelin'
I can't give you an answer but I can give you a little info. Compared to the 997.2 S, the GTS has a 3 mm thicker, hollow front anti sway bar and it's offsets are a bit wider as well. (This I from an interview I read featuring the director of the Carrera product line, August Achleitner, specifically when he was talking about the GTS handling and how it differed from the S.) The fact that Sport PASM could be fitted right on to the GTS ( a cary over from the S line) must indicate that there isn't much, if any, difference other than this Best of luck!
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Closing the loop here and leaving the info for future searches.
I am 90% sure these are the manufacturer product numbers for the respective performance/lowering springs on 2011 and 2012 997.2 GTS and 4GTS models. If anything ever changes and/or current owners can verify differently, I'll update this post.
All of these work with PASM.
Source info in parentheses.
11-12 997.2 GTS:
Eibach - 7217.140 (from Eibach directly) - ~25mm drop from base GTS
TechArt - 097.200.100.009 (from Sharkwerks) - ~25mm drop from base GTS
H&R - 29188-1 (from H&R directly) - ~32mm drop from base GTS
11-12 997.2 4GTS:
Eibach - 7222.140 (from Eibach directly) - ~25mm drop from base 4GTS
TechArt - ?
H&R - 54097-2 (from H&R directly) 1 ~32mm drop from base 4GTS
I am 90% sure these are the manufacturer product numbers for the respective performance/lowering springs on 2011 and 2012 997.2 GTS and 4GTS models. If anything ever changes and/or current owners can verify differently, I'll update this post.
All of these work with PASM.
Source info in parentheses.
11-12 997.2 GTS:
Eibach - 7217.140 (from Eibach directly) - ~25mm drop from base GTS
TechArt - 097.200.100.009 (from Sharkwerks) - ~25mm drop from base GTS
H&R - 29188-1 (from H&R directly) - ~32mm drop from base GTS
11-12 997.2 4GTS:
Eibach - 7222.140 (from Eibach directly) - ~25mm drop from base 4GTS
TechArt - ?
H&R - 54097-2 (from H&R directly) 1 ~32mm drop from base 4GTS
Last edited by nwGTS; 02-23-2015 at 02:15 PM.
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Nate,
Sorry that I am still waiting on a definitive answer from them. Our guy should be back monday. I will update this as well if there are any changes
Sorry that I am still waiting on a definitive answer from them. Our guy should be back monday. I will update this as well if there are any changes
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Hey no worries. I just thought I'd get all the info I had out there and in one spot. Ping me and I'll update it if you find otherwise. And cross reference this info with any of your contacts too.
#9
Race Director
Go with Sharkwerks suggestions.
I do not suggest messing with stock GTS springs. Ido suggest changing to something like Bilstein B16 Damptronics and adjustable gt3 style sways if you do a lot of track days.
I do not suggest messing with stock GTS springs. Ido suggest changing to something like Bilstein B16 Damptronics and adjustable gt3 style sways if you do a lot of track days.
#10
Save yourself some $$ and go directly with Bilstein Damptronics and GT3 control arms
I have a 2011 GTS with PASM and did the Eibach lowering springs, it was great if you plan on only using it on Road. After my first track event it was clear that the PASM wasn't cutting it for the track. I went with Bilstein Damptronics, GT3 controlarms (front only), GMG swaybars and Tarrett drop links. The car is transformed and amazing with all the adjustablity. If you plan on tracking your car, trust me, just do it!
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GTS Cab vs Coupe, GTS Coupe, AWD's, etc.
Closing the loop here and leaving the info for future searches.
I am 90% sure these are the manufacturer product numbers for the respective performance/lowering springs on 2011 and 2012 997.2 GTS and 4GTS models. If anything ever changes and/or current owners can verify differently, I'll update this post.
All of these work with PASM.
Source info in parentheses.
11-12 997.2 GTS:
Eibach - 7217.140 (from Eibach directly) - ~25mm drop from base GTS
TechArt - 097.200.100.009 (from Sharkwerks) - ~25mm drop from base GTS
H&R - 29188-1 (from H&R directly) - ~32mm drop from base GTS
11-12 997.2 4GTS:
Eibach - 7222.140 (from Eibach directly) - ~25mm drop from base 4GTS
TechArt - ?
H&R - 54097-2 (from H&R directly) 1 ~32mm drop from base 4GTS
I am 90% sure these are the manufacturer product numbers for the respective performance/lowering springs on 2011 and 2012 997.2 GTS and 4GTS models. If anything ever changes and/or current owners can verify differently, I'll update this post.
All of these work with PASM.
Source info in parentheses.
11-12 997.2 GTS:
Eibach - 7217.140 (from Eibach directly) - ~25mm drop from base GTS
TechArt - 097.200.100.009 (from Sharkwerks) - ~25mm drop from base GTS
H&R - 29188-1 (from H&R directly) - ~32mm drop from base GTS
11-12 997.2 4GTS:
Eibach - 7222.140 (from Eibach directly) - ~25mm drop from base 4GTS
TechArt - ?
H&R - 54097-2 (from H&R directly) 1 ~32mm drop from base 4GTS
Thus, a set of Eibach’s (# 7217.140) are en route to me. I ordered these after briefly speaking with Eibach directly. The salesperson checked with Europe (office counterpart?) and concluded this is the correct set for my vehicle. Apparently, their California division has not tested springs on a 997 GTS Cab (and coupe) therefore does not show fitment on the US website.
Referencing nwGTS’s much appreciated research and summary, I’m curious as to how potentially different the Eibach’s may be on a GTS Cabriolet PDK. The majority, if not all the GTS related suspension threads I've read have been for coupes. I understand. So, appreciate thoughts and input, especially considering the following.
- On another forum, “997GTSsweden” in a nutshell advised the GTS cabs were not available with SPASM and to simply upgrade with respective coupe parts. So, kind of going with this rationale.
- According to Eibach (US) and H&R online fitment, coupe and cabrio is the same. Weight between the two, especially front/rear balance must be different. And 2WD manual vs PDK also show same fitment. Perhaps all these variables in weight are nominal?
- And sure, aftermarket spring fitment looks to be the same for standard coupe/cab. But GTS bodies are AWD bodies, slightly heavier. Again, perhaps this weight difference is insignificant.
- Lastly... although Eibach confirmed # 7217.140 for my GTS Cab, Pelican Parts lists #7222.140 for my car and for GTS coupes for that matter. Huh??
I just want to make sure I do indeed have the correct or “best-fitment” Eibach springs ordered. I am hoping this raise the car slightly, and maybe give the dampers a little more travel. I am not expecting a track superstar just yet - with a cab body and for-now holding off on other suspension changes (ie. dampers, adjustable camber plates, toe links, etc.).
Much thanks!
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7217.140 is correct for your car. Though PDK vs 6MT and cab vs coupe may add or subtract a few pounds from the rear it’s not much relevant to what the springs are designed for. The big difference is in a drive shaft and front differential in the AWD models that affect the front end.
So so you’re all good with the part number you provided.
And that 1.2inch drop is from a base Carrera. Not a GTS. GTS is already 10mm lower. So it’s only 25mm from GTS. Many many threads here confirming H&R are greater drop than Eibach. So yes you’ll be raising the car by about 10mm
So so you’re all good with the part number you provided.
And that 1.2inch drop is from a base Carrera. Not a GTS. GTS is already 10mm lower. So it’s only 25mm from GTS. Many many threads here confirming H&R are greater drop than Eibach. So yes you’ll be raising the car by about 10mm
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7217.140 is correct for your car. Though PDK vs 6MT and cab vs coupe may add or subtract a few pounds from the rear it’s not much relevant to what the springs are designed for. The big difference is in a drive shaft and front differential in the AWD models that affect the front end.
So so you’re all good with the part number you provided.
And that 1.2inch drop is from a base Carrera. Not a GTS. GTS is already 10mm lower. So it’s only 25mm from GTS. Many many threads here confirming H&R are greater drop than Eibach. So yes you’ll be raising the car by about 10mm
So so you’re all good with the part number you provided.
And that 1.2inch drop is from a base Carrera. Not a GTS. GTS is already 10mm lower. So it’s only 25mm from GTS. Many many threads here confirming H&R are greater drop than Eibach. So yes you’ll be raising the car by about 10mm
Working to get these springs installed ahead of an upcoming track day