F Type? 991? Audi R8? Viper? C7?
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#17
I never understood the logic behind this statement. I can afford $5k annual service and I can afford $15k annual service. But I'd choose not to spend $15k on service, and would rather put that money into a newer/better car instead.
Why wouldn't you ask what the all-in costs are to own the car? It's all part of the ownership experience.
Why wouldn't you ask what the all-in costs are to own the car? It's all part of the ownership experience.
#19
Do you guys know that every new Ferrari comes with a 7 yr free maintenance (2012s and later).
My friend says he spends about $500 a year or less at the dealer with his 458. His is a 2010.
The engineering has improved light years so they are like normal cars now.
My friend says he spends about $500 a year or less at the dealer with his 458. His is a 2010.
The engineering has improved light years so they are like normal cars now.
#21
No more majors or engine out service on modern Ferraris.
Basic maintanence are fluid changes. Every other year all fluids at about $1500 and alternate years all but gearbox and e-diff fluid at $1100. That's at the dealer where I have mine serviced. You can get it done cheaper at an indie, of course.
Spark plugs at 30 K miles or so. Haven't reached that point yet.
I have CCBs and they should last the life of the car. Damage to rotors is expensive, however at 6K a piece. Ceramic brake pads at about 1 K a piece. A complete brake job 30 K. Most people do not drive their cars enough to require replacement ever (unless you track it).
Maintanence is inexpensive given the price of the car. That's not the problem. The problem is out of warranty REPAIRS. Extended factory warranties are available from about $3500 TO $5500 a year up until the 10 th year: Power cube, Power normal, Power train warranties are available depending on the age of the car. Depends on your risk tolerance. Mine was included with the car sale but I would not otherwise purchace it. You have to buy through an authroized Ferrari dealer to qualify. If you do then the dealership should include at least one years warranty. At least you have the piece of mind that you have not overlooked any major components in the first year of ownership. You can buy cheaper through a private party but without the warranty coverage. It's obviously cheaper but carries more risk.
In the 430 series I, personally, would stay away from anything before 2008. The exhaust headers were improved (MkI prone to failure potentially sucking precat debris into the engine) and also improved F1 algorithm.
No need to choose between an F car and a 911. Just buy both.
Basic maintanence are fluid changes. Every other year all fluids at about $1500 and alternate years all but gearbox and e-diff fluid at $1100. That's at the dealer where I have mine serviced. You can get it done cheaper at an indie, of course.
Spark plugs at 30 K miles or so. Haven't reached that point yet.
I have CCBs and they should last the life of the car. Damage to rotors is expensive, however at 6K a piece. Ceramic brake pads at about 1 K a piece. A complete brake job 30 K. Most people do not drive their cars enough to require replacement ever (unless you track it).
Maintanence is inexpensive given the price of the car. That's not the problem. The problem is out of warranty REPAIRS. Extended factory warranties are available from about $3500 TO $5500 a year up until the 10 th year: Power cube, Power normal, Power train warranties are available depending on the age of the car. Depends on your risk tolerance. Mine was included with the car sale but I would not otherwise purchace it. You have to buy through an authroized Ferrari dealer to qualify. If you do then the dealership should include at least one years warranty. At least you have the piece of mind that you have not overlooked any major components in the first year of ownership. You can buy cheaper through a private party but without the warranty coverage. It's obviously cheaper but carries more risk.
In the 430 series I, personally, would stay away from anything before 2008. The exhaust headers were improved (MkI prone to failure potentially sucking precat debris into the engine) and also improved F1 algorithm.
No need to choose between an F car and a 911. Just buy both.
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#24
No more majors or engine out service on modern Ferraris.
Basic maintanence are fluid changes. Every other year all fluids at about $1500 and alternate years all but gearbox and e-diff fluid at $1100. That's at the dealer where I have mine serviced. You can get it done cheaper at an indie, of course.
Spark plugs at 30 K miles or so. Haven't reached that point yet.
I have CCBs and they should last the life of the car. Damage to rotors is expensive, however at 6K a piece. Ceramic brake pads at about 1 K a piece. A complete brake job 30 K. Most people do not drive their cars enough to require replacement ever (unless you track it).
Maintanence is inexpensive given the price of the car. That's not the problem. The problem is out of warranty REPAIRS. Extended factory warranties are available from about $3500 TO $5500 a year up until the 10 th year: Power cube, Power normal, Power train warranties are available depending on the age of the car. Depends on your risk tolerance. Mine was included with the car sale but I would not otherwise purchace it. You have to buy through an authroized Ferrari dealer to qualify. If you do then the dealership should include at least one years warranty. At least you have the piece of mind that you have not overlooked any major components in the first year of ownership. You can buy cheaper through a private party but without the warranty coverage. It's obviously cheaper but carries more risk.
In the 430 series I, personally, would stay away from anything before 2008. The exhaust headers were improved (MkI prone to failure potentially sucking precat debris into the engine) and also improved F1 algorithm.
No need to choose between an F car and a 911. Just buy both.
Basic maintanence are fluid changes. Every other year all fluids at about $1500 and alternate years all but gearbox and e-diff fluid at $1100. That's at the dealer where I have mine serviced. You can get it done cheaper at an indie, of course.
Spark plugs at 30 K miles or so. Haven't reached that point yet.
I have CCBs and they should last the life of the car. Damage to rotors is expensive, however at 6K a piece. Ceramic brake pads at about 1 K a piece. A complete brake job 30 K. Most people do not drive their cars enough to require replacement ever (unless you track it).
Maintanence is inexpensive given the price of the car. That's not the problem. The problem is out of warranty REPAIRS. Extended factory warranties are available from about $3500 TO $5500 a year up until the 10 th year: Power cube, Power normal, Power train warranties are available depending on the age of the car. Depends on your risk tolerance. Mine was included with the car sale but I would not otherwise purchace it. You have to buy through an authroized Ferrari dealer to qualify. If you do then the dealership should include at least one years warranty. At least you have the piece of mind that you have not overlooked any major components in the first year of ownership. You can buy cheaper through a private party but without the warranty coverage. It's obviously cheaper but carries more risk.
In the 430 series I, personally, would stay away from anything before 2008. The exhaust headers were improved (MkI prone to failure potentially sucking precat debris into the engine) and also improved F1 algorithm.
No need to choose between an F car and a 911. Just buy both.
#25
The 997GT3 RS is a great car, and part of what is helping its value is that some people are lamenting the loss of a manual transmission with the new car. Some may feel with each evolution the cars are getting further from what the 911 was. Plus IMHO the 997GT3 RS is a better looking car than the 991GT3. In time, taste may change as acceptance of the 991GT3 and its PDK only set up increases...and prices of 997GT3s may drop.
+1 with more than 18,000 360s built and probably a similar number of 430s, they are exotics, but not collectibles. Prices will continue to drop on those...with the specialty models (scuds/16Ms) holding more value.
+1
#26
Local shop near me either had a 360 or 430, I forget which, come in with a blown up F1 transmission pump actuator. They said that's a $10K repair.
#27
There but for the grace of god... Thank goodness older Porsche Turbos like mine take retunes and upgrades so well that they can keep mixing it up with another generation or two of cars to provide a decade or so of competitive club fun, even if finally the F458 or 991 Turbo really are now in another league and the latest GT3 can pull away by seconds a lap on a dry road circuit.
#29
Want a car that will really hold value and be a blast? 360 CS... I considered one (didnt test, just looking at listings) but can't fathom parking it in NYC (or driving on these roads for that matter) so will need to wait... imho that is the car to get for full ferrari experience and with reasonable maintenance (relatively) and with reasonable weekend miles will likely appreciate from here...
Then again, I did try a standard 360 and felt it horribly uncomfortable (Im 6'3")... so perhaps CS is off the list!
Then again, I did try a standard 360 and felt it horribly uncomfortable (Im 6'3")... so perhaps CS is off the list!
Last edited by SpeedyD; 11-11-2014 at 09:41 PM. Reason: typo
#30
I would consider a Ferrari 360 Stradale for sure.
One thing I love about the 997S is it clears just about everything on the road. I really was hating life last weekend when I took my Boss302 into New Orleans and did a good number on the front splitter in an unfamiliar parking garage. Less than 1 inch of ground clearance on that car - confined to racetrack and local destinations only from now on. The 997 i'll drive anywhere.
One thing I love about the 997S is it clears just about everything on the road. I really was hating life last weekend when I took my Boss302 into New Orleans and did a good number on the front splitter in an unfamiliar parking garage. Less than 1 inch of ground clearance on that car - confined to racetrack and local destinations only from now on. The 997 i'll drive anywhere.