pissedpuppy

might just agree at that price point

Redline911

I never understood the logic behind this statement. I can afford $5k annual service and I can afford $15k annual service. But I'd choose not to spend $15k on service, and would rather put that money into a newer/better car instead.

Why wouldn't you ask what the all-in costs are to own the car? It's all part of the ownership experience.

user 72902

+1

fskof

Do you guys know that every new Ferrari comes with a 7 yr free maintenance (2012s and later).
My friend says he spends about $500 a year or less at the dealer with his 458. His is a 2010.
The engineering has improved light years so they are like normal cars now.

Perk10

all day

boolala

No more majors or engine out service on modern Ferraris.

Basic maintanence are fluid changes. Every other year all fluids at about $1500 and alternate years all but gearbox and e-diff fluid at $1100. That's at the dealer where I have mine serviced. You can get it done cheaper at an indie, of course.

Spark plugs at 30 K miles or so. Haven't reached that point yet.

I have CCBs and they should last the life of the car. Damage to rotors is expensive, however at 6K a piece. Ceramic brake pads at about 1 K a piece. A complete brake job 30 K. Most people do not drive their cars enough to require replacement ever (unless you track it).

Maintanence is inexpensive given the price of the car. That's not the problem. The problem is out of warranty REPAIRS. Extended factory warranties are available from about $3500 TO $5500 a year up until the 10 th year: Power cube, Power normal, Power train warranties are available depending on the age of the car. Depends on your risk tolerance. Mine was included with the car sale but I would not otherwise purchace it. You have to buy through an authroized Ferrari dealer to qualify. If you do then the dealership should include at least one years warranty. At least you have the piece of mind that you have not overlooked any major components in the first year of ownership. You can buy cheaper through a private party but without the warranty coverage. It's obviously cheaper but carries more risk.

In the 430 series I, personally, would stay away from anything before 2008. The exhaust headers were improved (MkI prone to failure potentially sucking precat debris into the engine) and also improved F1 algorithm.

No need to choose between an F car and a 911. Just buy both.

boolala

It looks like that car has only one key. Another will set you back about 1 K or more. Also the clutch at 60% is almost toast. Clutch and flywheel (usually replaced together) is about 7 K.

Para82

Only 7k?

Marine Blue

So have you had any issues with your Ferrari? I'm curious what kind of costs to expect when the car falls out of warranty.

Dino944

Part of what you are seeing is that the 458 is light years ahead of the 430s in terms of performance and looks. Lots of people with 430s that have the $ are dumping them for 458s. The owner of our local Fcar service shop has a challenge 430 and he said a guy put a 458 on the track and it was like all the 430s were standing still...it just trounces them in terms of performance.

The 997GT3 RS is a great car, and part of what is helping its value is that some people are lamenting the loss of a manual transmission with the new car. Some may feel with each evolution the cars are getting further from what the 911 was. Plus IMHO the 997GT3 RS is a better looking car than the 991GT3. In time, taste may change as acceptance of the 991GT3 and its PDK only set up increases...and prices of 997GT3s may drop.

+1 with more than 18,000 360s built and probably a similar number of 430s, they are exotics, but not collectibles. Prices will continue to drop on those...with the specialty models (scuds/16Ms) holding more value.

Prices on service started to come down with the 360s, which got an access panel so you don't have to drop the engines for major service (the way you have to on 348s and 355s), and they also don't have the dreaded valve guide issues that some 355s have to have corrected. But as Boolala said, its the out of warranty repairs that can get expensive.

+1

Dino944

Local shop near me either had a 360 or 430, I forget which, come in with a blown up F1 transmission pump actuator. They said that's a $10K repair.

996tnz

There but for the grace of god... Thank goodness older Porsche Turbos like mine take retunes and upgrades so well that they can keep mixing it up with another generation or two of cars to provide a decade or so of competitive club fun, even if finally the F458 or 991 Turbo really are now in another league and the latest GT3 can pull away by seconds a lap on a dry road circuit.

Para82

Meh...rather have an F-Type or another 997.

SpeedyD

Want a car that will really hold value and be a blast? 360 CS... I considered one (didnt test, just looking at listings) but can't fathom parking it in NYC (or driving on these roads for that matter) so will need to wait... imho that is the car to get for full ferrari experience and with reasonable maintenance (relatively) and with reasonable weekend miles will likely appreciate from here...

Then again, I did try a standard 360 and felt it horribly uncomfortable (Im 6'3")... so perhaps CS is off the list!

Para82

I would consider a Ferrari 360 Stradale for sure.

One thing I love about the 997S is it clears just about everything on the road. I really was hating life last weekend when I took my Boss302 into New Orleans and did a good number on the front splitter in an unfamiliar parking garage. Less than 1 inch of ground clearance on that car - confined to racetrack and local destinations only from now on. The 997 i'll drive anywhere.