Looking for that crackle, gurgle and pop...
03-05-2013, 09:21 PM
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Start with the center muffler crossover pipes (shark, I have AWE). It's easily reversible. if you want more go for the gundo/fister hack or different side cans. I opted for AWE side cans with the crossover pipes and it is not loud until you get up around 4k. It does have a nice burble and pop and has a much deeper sound than stock. I think it sounds sweet. Wife doesn't think it is loud either. 997.2 sounds a bit wheezy w/o a little exhaust work or PSE.
03-05-2013, 10:54 PM
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I think some, especially those that have no experience with it, misunderstand Tubi. It's really an amazing system: it is relatively quiet at idle and low RPMs, but comes to life at 4k+ RPMs. You get the character, the prerequisite crackle, gurgle and pop, and, above all, like PSE, dual character. But, unlike PSE, your switch is activated/deactivated by your right foot, instead of some silly button on the center console.
03-05-2013, 11:17 PM
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So:
1) Center muffler bypass = louder sound, same character (not much gurgle, pop, crackle)
2) Gundo/Fister = louder sound, more character (gurgle, pop, crackle)
3) Center muffler bypass + Gundo/Fister = much louder sound and more character
I will probably just do #2 right? I guess, I'm just striving for PSE experience on the cheap....
1) Center muffler bypass = louder sound, same character (not much gurgle, pop, crackle)
2) Gundo/Fister = louder sound, more character (gurgle, pop, crackle)
3) Center muffler bypass + Gundo/Fister = much louder sound and more character
I will probably just do #2 right? I guess, I'm just striving for PSE experience on the cheap....
03-05-2013, 11:36 PM
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I'd also recommend incremental changes. I started with the Sharkwerks and it's all I need for my 997.2 with stock mufflers.
I didn't want the hassle of using my mufflers or sourcing used ones to support the Gundo mod. as a first step. The Sharkwerks replaces the center muffler and if I didn't like it, I'm sure it wouldn't last ten mintes in the For Sale section. If the Sharkwerks didn't make me smile, then maybe I'd add the Gundo. But, I like how it sounds now with just the Sharkwerks.
I didn't want the hassle of using my mufflers or sourcing used ones to support the Gundo mod. as a first step. The Sharkwerks replaces the center muffler and if I didn't like it, I'm sure it wouldn't last ten mintes in the For Sale section. If the Sharkwerks didn't make me smile, then maybe I'd add the Gundo. But, I like how it sounds now with just the Sharkwerks.
+997.2 These posts are spot on. I did the Gundo first and wish I would have done the Sharkwerks first. First thing you have to do on a .2 car is get rid of that center muffler. Rocco07 is correct. If you don't like it center muffler by-pass pipes sell in about 30 seconds here.
03-05-2013, 11:47 PM
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I have Sharkwerks centre bypass and Cargraphic sides, enjoying the sound it delivers!
03-06-2013, 01:13 PM
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Right on Dan, I can't express enough how pleased I am w/ my PSE and I get plenty of compliments from others. As far as the "button" I think it looks great on the console. If you don't want to play with it, you simple pull the plug in the engine bay(like I did) to keep it always on. If you join the PCA, you are entitled to a decent discount on parts and labor at the dealership. I think it's 15% on parts and 10% on labor. Can't recall right now, but you can inquire at your dealership. Some give more or less than others.
