Looking for that crackle, gurgle and pop...
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Looking for that crackle, gurgle and pop...
Loving my 997.2 C2 so far. It's a just few weeks into ownership and just a couple hundred miles (it's not my DD) and my only complaint is like so many others. The exhaust note is too tame for a Sports Car.
I'm not looking for superloud. The car has to appeal to the Mrs, if it is going to get driven on weekends. The sound I'm looking for is that gurgling, popping sound like in this video
Now I know that this is PSE on a 991 so I'm not going to get that exact sound, but that is the goal. PSE seems great, but I'm struggling to justify the $4k+ that it's going to cost to add PSE. The on/off functionality seems great, but really, that's a bit much to just add a sound track.
The two other options are Gundo Hack and Sharkwerks bypass. Which of these would be closer to that sound I'm looking for? I've searched and looked on youtube extensively, but nothing seems to answer this specific question.
I'm not looking for superloud. The car has to appeal to the Mrs, if it is going to get driven on weekends. The sound I'm looking for is that gurgling, popping sound like in this video
Now I know that this is PSE on a 991 so I'm not going to get that exact sound, but that is the goal. PSE seems great, but I'm struggling to justify the $4k+ that it's going to cost to add PSE. The on/off functionality seems great, but really, that's a bit much to just add a sound track.
The two other options are Gundo Hack and Sharkwerks bypass. Which of these would be closer to that sound I'm looking for? I've searched and looked on youtube extensively, but nothing seems to answer this specific question.
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As above, I recommend getting a Gundo/ Fister mod to your side mufflers $400, then getting a Sharkwerks center muffler bypass $800...substantial savings and will give you great exhaust note.
After some time if the car is still quiet to you, sell the side mufflers and get a Tubi system 3k for the side mufflers...you won't go wrong with either..
Personally I have the first set up on my 997.2 and love it.
After some time if the car is still quiet to you, sell the side mufflers and get a Tubi system 3k for the side mufflers...you won't go wrong with either..
Personally I have the first set up on my 997.2 and love it.
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As above, I recommend getting a Gundo/ Fister mod to your side mufflers $400, then getting a Sharkwerks center muffler bypass $800...substantial savings and will give you great exhaust note.
After some time if the car is still quiet to you, sell the side mufflers and get a Tubi system 3k for the side mufflers...you won't go wrong with either..
Personally I have the first set up on my 997.2 and love it.
After some time if the car is still quiet to you, sell the side mufflers and get a Tubi system 3k for the side mufflers...you won't go wrong with either..
Personally I have the first set up on my 997.2 and love it.
If you do just one or the other of the two, I think you will be disappointed that the sound is not what you were looking for. IMO, doing both options will give you what you want.
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The Gundo on my 997.1 is awesome! I love the extra character without it being over the top sounding. I know the 997.2 has some extra work to get the same sound, but the Gundo is pure value for the $ in my opinion.
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+1 on that ^. Two weeks after getting my '10 C2S with stock mufflers, I added the Sharkwerks pipes, which added some volume to the sound. 6 weeks later I added PSE. Beaftiful music, burbles, and pops! You could go with the Gundo mod instead of PSE.
If you do just one or the other of the two, I think you will be disappointed that the sound is not what you were looking for. IMO, doing both options will give you what you want.
If you do just one or the other of the two, I think you will be disappointed that the sound is not what you were looking for. IMO, doing both options will give you what you want.
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Bought a used Tubi for my 2007 C2S. Sound is quite tame unless you push the car hard. I was surprised that the muffler cans were not near as loud as some other Tubi systems I've heard on non-Porsche cars.
The used cans had virtually no miles on them and I paid $1400 delivered to my door. Installed them in 2 hours with the help of a friend and a lift.
The used cans had virtually no miles on them and I paid $1400 delivered to my door. Installed them in 2 hours with the help of a friend and a lift.
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I think some, especially those that have no experience with it, misunderstand Tubi. It's really an amazing system: it is relatively quiet at idle and low RPMs, but comes to life at 4k+ RPMs. You get the character, the prerequisite crackle, gurgle and pop, and, above all, like PSE, dual character. But, unlike PSE, your switch is activated/deactivated by your right foot, instead of some silly button on the center console.
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I'd also recommend incremental changes. I started with the Sharkwerks and it's all I need for my 997.2 with stock mufflers.
I didn't want the hassle of using my mufflers or sourcing used ones to support the Gundo mod. as a first step. The Sharkwerks replaces the center muffler and if I didn't like it, I'm sure it wouldn't last ten mintes in the For Sale section. If the Sharkwerks didn't make me smile, then maybe I'd add the Gundo. But, I like how it sounds now with just the Sharkwerks.
I didn't want the hassle of using my mufflers or sourcing used ones to support the Gundo mod. as a first step. The Sharkwerks replaces the center muffler and if I didn't like it, I'm sure it wouldn't last ten mintes in the For Sale section. If the Sharkwerks didn't make me smile, then maybe I'd add the Gundo. But, I like how it sounds now with just the Sharkwerks.
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Loving my 997.2 C2 so far. It's a just few weeks into ownership and just a couple hundred miles (it's not my DD) and my only complaint is like so many others. The exhaust note is too tame for a Sports Car.
I'm not looking for superloud. The car has to appeal to the Mrs, if it is going to get driven on weekends. The sound I'm looking for is that gurgling, popping sound like in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUFjEwsGqYI
Now I know that this is PSE on a 991 so I'm not going to get that exact sound, but that is the goal. PSE seems great, but I'm struggling to justify the $4k+ that it's going to cost to add PSE. The on/off functionality seems great, but really, that's a bit much to just add a sound track.
The two other options are Gundo Hack and Sharkwerks bypass. Which of these would be closer to that sound I'm looking for? I've searched and looked on youtube extensively, but nothing seems to answer this specific question.
I'm not looking for superloud. The car has to appeal to the Mrs, if it is going to get driven on weekends. The sound I'm looking for is that gurgling, popping sound like in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUFjEwsGqYI
Now I know that this is PSE on a 991 so I'm not going to get that exact sound, but that is the goal. PSE seems great, but I'm struggling to justify the $4k+ that it's going to cost to add PSE. The on/off functionality seems great, but really, that's a bit much to just add a sound track.
The two other options are Gundo Hack and Sharkwerks bypass. Which of these would be closer to that sound I'm looking for? I've searched and looked on youtube extensively, but nothing seems to answer this specific question.
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I have Fister mufflers on my 997.1 and find them to be plenty loud. I've noticed that a lot more people walking on the streets now turn around to see what's coming up the road now than before. As for the sound I get a lot more of that crackle and pop that you're looking for, especially when the engine is cold.
You should give Darin a call at FD Motorsports to discuss how to get that "997.1 with Fister sound" on your 997.2. He was really helpful with me.
You should give Darin a call at FD Motorsports to discuss how to get that "997.1 with Fister sound" on your 997.2. He was really helpful with me.
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I have Fister mufflers on my 997.1 and find them to be plenty loud. I've noticed that a lot more people walking on the streets now turn around to see what's coming up the road now than before. As for the sound I get a lot more of that crackle and pop that you're looking for, especially when the engine is cold.
You should give Darin a call at FD Motorsports to discuss how to get that "997.1 with Fister sound" on your 997.2. He was really helpful with me.
You should give Darin a call at FD Motorsports to discuss how to get that "997.1 with Fister sound" on your 997.2. He was really helpful with me.
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The nice thing about first eliminating the center silencer with a straight pipe is that you can incrementally increase the sound by doing the gundo later, if that's not loud enough for you. It's also very cost effective.
I have the Tubi system which eliminates the center silencer and replaces the side cans with their mufflers, and as some have said, it's not loud at moderate throttle, but you hear music past mid-throttle position. I get a burp both on upshifts and downshifts with a PDK in Sport mode with the Tubi.
I have the Tubi system which eliminates the center silencer and replaces the side cans with their mufflers, and as some have said, it's not loud at moderate throttle, but you hear music past mid-throttle position. I get a burp both on upshifts and downshifts with a PDK in Sport mode with the Tubi.
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So:
1) Center muffler bypass = louder sound, same character (not much gurgle, pop, crackle)
2) Gundo/Fister = louder sound, more character (gurgle, pop, crackle)
3) Center muffler bypass + Gundo/Fister = much louder sound and more character
I will probably just do #2 right? I guess, I'm just striving for PSE experience on the cheap....
1) Center muffler bypass = louder sound, same character (not much gurgle, pop, crackle)
2) Gundo/Fister = louder sound, more character (gurgle, pop, crackle)
3) Center muffler bypass + Gundo/Fister = much louder sound and more character
I will probably just do #2 right? I guess, I'm just striving for PSE experience on the cheap....