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Old 03-04-2013, 06:32 PM
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Default High Miles / This service record = is this safe to buy?

(hi, this is my first post!)

I'm looking at a 2007 Porsche Carrera, coupe. It has 75,000 miles and the asking price is $36,900.

I'm a bit worried about the high miles but it seems like it has a good service history. Would you feel safe buying this car? (see attachment, it has a screen shot of the carfax service history)
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:54 PM
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Though it has some miles on it, it seems to have been serviced regularly. Will they pull a DME report for you? (do the 997.1's have a DME report?) How does the car as a whole appear? Paint, interior, under-carriage, etc. The price seems pretty reasonable to me. Good luck.
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75K miles should be fine provided it has a clean DME report and PPI. If it hasn't been done already then reserve some $$ for the following service items JIC:
- change oil and filter
- replace cab filter, battery, s-belt, water pump
- flush brake fluid

Less than $700 if you DIY. BTW, tires are $1,300-$1500 for a new set. GL and let us know the outcome.
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Originally Posted by USMC_DS1
75K miles should be fine provided it has a clean DME report and PPI. If it hasn't been done already then reserve some $$ for the following service items JIC:
- change oil and filter
- replace cab filter, battery, s-belt, water pump
- flush brake fluid

Less than $700 if you DIY. BTW, tires are $1,300-$1500 for a new set. GL and let us know the outcome.
wow, thanks for the info guys. im kinda new to porsches... im not familiar with all of the reports, etc. maybe i'll just go with my second choice (2005 porsche carrera). it's owned by a 67 year old guy who baby's all of his cars and it only has 44,000 miles.
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Originally Posted by motodude
wow, thanks for the info guys. im kinda new to porsches... im not familiar with all of the reports, etc. maybe i'll just go with my second choice (2005 porsche carrera). it's owned by a 67 year old guy who baby's all of his cars and it only has 44,000 miles.
Most 2005 cars have IMS failure risk. Its a low chance but it happens. You should research and decide.

If you go 45K, the number of good low mile cars will increase nicely. Are you sure on the desired options?

GL with your search.
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Originally Posted by motodude
wow, thanks for the info guys. im kinda new to porsches... .
Me too, these guys will tell you: get familiar with models/years/options. It doesn't take much time/effort. You are in the 997.1-997.2 market it looks like. Also, there are a lot of ppl here who post how much they paid. Search for that and use it as a guide. I bought a 2006 C2S with 44k miles for $43k a few months back FYI.

Originally Posted by motodude
im not familiar with all of the reports, etc.
Me neither which is why I followed the advice on here and got a Pre- purchase inspection done (also because the service history was sparse on mine. ( I know - I took the risk). Again, it doesn't take long to find out the basics and you'll make a better informed decision if you do the investigation.

Originally Posted by motodude
maybe i'll just go with my second choice (2005 porsche carrera). it's owned by a 67 year old guy who baby's all of his cars and it only has 44,000 miles.
Doing that would not make me change my opinions above and unless I'm way off the mark - it would not substantially change the other posters' opinions.

There is no shortage of used 997's so don't rush the decision.

Factors to consider:
Manual or tip-tronic
Coupe or cab or targa
Base or S or turbo
2 or 4 wheel drive
Color
CPO or aftermarket warranty or none

You won't regret taking your time. You may regret not.


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Originally Posted by cvtbenhogan
Most 2005 cars have IMS failure risk. Its a low chance but it happens. You should research and decide.

If you go 45K, the number of good low mile cars will increase nicely. Are you sure on the desired options?

GL with your search.

yea i've read about the IMS failures but I didn't know 2005 had a higher risk. I thought it was mostly 996's and some 997's. But with 44,000 miles, wouldnt you say if the IMS would fail, it would have failed already?
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IMS Bearing is an easy fix on the 2005. About $1500 for piece of mind. 2007 IMS bearing is bigger and better, but still known to fail and is not replaceable.

Negotiate your best deal on either car and enjoy!
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Actually, 40k range might be where failures occur. Most 05 cars have the weaker bearing. There is a not too costly fix.

Revised IMS showed up in later 2005 production with engine stamp starting with m97.... There are specific numbers marking the point of the revised bearing.

Haven't read of one IMS failure in the revised version. Many here would like to see any reports, as its currently considered a non issue. Which is good as the engine must be spilt to get at the bearing.
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Originally Posted by cvtbenhogan

Haven't read of one IMS failure in the revised version. Many here would like to see any reports, as its currently considered a non issue. Which is good as the engine must be spilt to get at the bearing.
+1 well put... if anyone has a confirmed issue with the new IMS please share with us. If there are no pics or service docs then it doesn't exist.
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seat bolster, carpet, steering wheel, hi traffic/wear areas holding up?
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what is a DME report?
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With high mileage cars, wear and tear becomes an issue for me since I like as pristine a car as I can afford. I realize you want one that is inexpensivel, but that comes with many risks as pointed out here in many posts.
These are not cheap cars to maintain. With that said, the last thing you want to worry about is unexpected repairs that could be very exoensive. 997s come in years from 2005-2012, and come with many many option variations/combinations. I'd advise you NOT to focus on a single car for a single reason like price. Figure out what you want in terms of options etc and get what you REALLY want or else you will keep looking even after you purchase an "acceptable" car. Be patient. Don't ask me how I know this.
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I have an '07 with 93K on it and no issues.


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