Seriously looking at purchase of 997, need advice
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Interesting because I was convinced by a dealer to go in and try the PDK. I am a manual guy but having said that, I have never driven the pdk (which was the dealers point). So, I was going to go give it a spin. I also read that the next GT3 will be pdk ONLY! Suppose if I am on the track and looking to drop a half-second on my lap times, sure but I think I enjoy pulling off a perfect heel-toe down-shift manually even if its once every 100 tries.
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I'm damn impressed with my 997.2 PDK. My fourth 911 - first PDK and first DFI. Best one to date.
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Not to beat the horse to death, I never said 997.2 was a bad choice. Quite the opposite. When I picked up my latest 997, I was most interested in the specific color, manual trans, and manual sports seats. This car popped up (CPO), so I moved on it. If the identical car (esp. with sport buckets!) had popped up in 997.2 guise, I would have bought it. As for my faith in Porsche's engineering, I wouldn't be on my 4th Porsche in 7 years if I didn't trust them. I was merely trying to point out one of the few downsides of DFI...
#35
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2nd - the IMS/RMS issues are totally overblown. totally
3rd - the "so called power" is negligible
4 - the same reason I like a 6sp manual tranny, I just don't care for direct fuel injection
5 - i think its funny as hell to watch guys like you get all wound up
now, if you're taking a position from a better motor stand point, then lets be honest and tell him to get a GT3 with the mezger engine
there, that's why
#36
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SFI engines are subject to carbon buildup, LOTS of it, due to EGR, exhaust gas residue being recirculated into the intake manifold. I should take pictures of the inside of my 1995 LS400 intake manifold w/260,000 miles. The only thing new with DFI is that the EGR residue now also cakes on the intake side of the intake valves.
A throttle body injector, or 2, just downstream of the MAF/IAT, and used only during engine idle, would solve both problems
#37
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It has been a big problem in DFI RS4s and BMWs (cars from 2007 or so). Unless Porsche has a magic trick, it'll get the same issue. Here's some scoop:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCUpSyuUPqY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCUpSyuUPqY
Real problem, poor solution.
#39
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+1 on the PPI(well worth the piece of mind) and according to other threads and a guy I know in the business, CARFAX isn't a guarantee of anything. I saw in another thread that a car with clean report had new paint all over it. The comment was high end shops can't be bothered with Carfax reporting.
Good luck with the purchase..you are gonna love it!
Good luck with the purchase..you are gonna love it!
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1st - most don't drive a P-car for its "economy" - so that's BS on your part
2nd - the IMS/RMS issues are totally overblown. totally
3rd - the "so called power" is negligible
4 - the same reason I like a 6sp manual tranny, I just don't care for direct fuel injection
5 - i think its funny as hell to watch guys like you get all wound up
now, if you're taking a position from a better motor stand point, then lets be honest and tell him to get a GT3 with the mezger engine
there, that's why
2nd - the IMS/RMS issues are totally overblown. totally
3rd - the "so called power" is negligible
4 - the same reason I like a 6sp manual tranny, I just don't care for direct fuel injection
5 - i think its funny as hell to watch guys like you get all wound up
now, if you're taking a position from a better motor stand point, then lets be honest and tell him to get a GT3 with the mezger engine
there, that's why
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2nd - the IMS/RMS issues are totally overblown. totally
3rd - the "so called power" is negligible
4 - the same reason I like a 6sp manual tranny, I just don't care for direct fuel injection
5 - i think its funny as hell to watch guys like you get all wound up
now, if you're taking a position from a better motor stand point, then lets be honest and tell him to get a GT3 with the mezger engine
there, that's why
Power difference was not negligible to me. That's why i didn't "upgrade" my 40th to a .1S. There wasn't a discernible performance difference between them. There was a noticeable difference that you could feel going to the .2S.
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Hmmm, my 996 to 997 was noticeably different, both S's, but not a 40th
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My 2 cents. They are all great cars and will bring the same smiles to your face. If you can afford the newest and more powerful, then fantastic. If your budget takes you to a .1, it is just as wonderful a car as a .2 or a 991, the basic formula is still magical. Everyone should just relax
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My 2 cents. They are all great cars and will bring the same smiles to your face. If you can afford the newest and more powerful, then fantastic. If your budget takes you to a .1, it is just as wonderful a car as a .2 or a 991, the basic formula is still magical. Everyone should just relax