Seriously looking at purchase of 997, need advice
#20
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The 997.2 Porsche has been out since 2009 and I did significant research with not one Carbon issue to be found, just because Audi or BMW has it does not mean anything.
Your comment has nothing what so ever to back it up, the IMS/RMS has plenty.
Your comment has nothing what so ever to back it up, the IMS/RMS has plenty.
#21
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Cheers.
#22
That's a little bit too general to recommend.
I have a 997.2 C2S and wouldn't want a 997.1. I think generally you might find some 997.1 owners who might recommend a 997.2 - not so sure you'll find the opposite.
The one downside of the 997.2 I can think of is exhaust note. That's an as remedy though with more value options; X-over, Fister mod, or going cat-back exhaust such as Tubi or others (I went Tubi and the only issue with cost I have s not doing it earlier).
Then there is always the $$$. All things being equalt - I'd rather have a 997.2 with 50k than a 997.1 with 35k assuming equal sale price.
I have a 997.2 C2S and wouldn't want a 997.1. I think generally you might find some 997.1 owners who might recommend a 997.2 - not so sure you'll find the opposite.
The one downside of the 997.2 I can think of is exhaust note. That's an as remedy though with more value options; X-over, Fister mod, or going cat-back exhaust such as Tubi or others (I went Tubi and the only issue with cost I have s not doing it earlier).
Then there is always the $$$. All things being equalt - I'd rather have a 997.2 with 50k than a 997.1 with 35k assuming equal sale price.
#23
Read this: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7...s-of-car-tech/
Important part for the tl;dr crowd:
Additionally, some owners and maintainers of GDI engines (particularly higher-performance, turbocharged models) have reported that direct-injection systems see increased carbon buildup in backsides of their intake valves, resulting in reduced airflow and performance over time. A quick Google search yields page after page of anecdotal reports of this issue. The buildup occurs because in most cars intake air is, frankly, kind of dirty -- even with air filters in place, modern exhaust gas recirculation systems and crankcase vent systems can add quite a bit of muck to the intake charge -- and without port injectors spraying gasoline (and the detergents that it contains) onto the valves, things can get pretty filthy over the course of many thousand miles.
#24
Porsche took almost 10 years to develop a completely new engine for the 997.2. They are also using this engine now in the turbo something they did not do with the old design. Either you think Porsche knows what they are doing or you don't. If you don't why own one? My bet is they did a **** load of testing and this is one strong engine and a big improvement over the old one used in the 997.1 and 996. I would spend the extra money and go with the 997.2 in a heart beat.
#25
997
I have one of each: 2005 S Cab, and 2009 S Cab. Both have been utterly reliable. No concerns about either one being out of warranty, but then I'm the original owner, so I know the car's history. Never a problem, most reliable brand of car I own.
There's always improvement and technological advancement. The 2009 has more power, much better electronics (Bluetooth, touch screen PCM, iPod interface, sat radio with traffic information), but I enjoy them equally.
There's always improvement and technological advancement. The 2009 has more power, much better electronics (Bluetooth, touch screen PCM, iPod interface, sat radio with traffic information), but I enjoy them equally.
#26
Poseur
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Hey, I have never posted here but have been a member for almost a year. Mostly I have been over looking at the marketplace. So, I find myself getting serious about a 2009 C2S. In general, I am looking for advice from all who have some to give. I have been looking at 997.1 and 997.2 but believe I like the .2 if I can get to it financially.
So, what do I need to know about these cars before I dive off the cliff?
Thanks in advance,
So, what do I need to know about these cars before I dive off the cliff?
Thanks in advance,
#27
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I really like the .2 The exterior update is fresh and the PCM is improved for the gadgets.
More importantly, there is a nice performance boost and the .2 S is one fast car. PDK would be the best reason to opt for the .2
That said, the 997.1 is a real bargain now and it's a great car. It's really a question if $10 to $15k more for a newer .2 is worth it. Drive both!!
For me it wasn't and I found a great 997.1S (knock on wood). If I change my mind, I'll just get a .2 with no regrets.
I don't think you can go wrong with either version if its been taken care of.
More importantly, there is a nice performance boost and the .2 S is one fast car. PDK would be the best reason to opt for the .2
That said, the 997.1 is a real bargain now and it's a great car. It's really a question if $10 to $15k more for a newer .2 is worth it. Drive both!!
For me it wasn't and I found a great 997.1S (knock on wood). If I change my mind, I'll just get a .2 with no regrets.
I don't think you can go wrong with either version if its been taken care of.
#28
Banned
I would probable go with a 997.2 non s version instead of the 997.1 S. If price is a deciding factor. They are both about the same hp and you get the newer more reliable motor and electronics.
#30
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I'm in the same boat with my search. Was on the .1 C2S vs. .2 C2 fence. Almost immediately after the first of the year, the prices seemed to drop a little more and a number of .2 C2S cars and are now out there in the $62-58k range and continuing to dip down. Figure since it's winter I'll keep searching a little longer, get a few more lease return 2009's in, more 991's on the road, etc. Anyway, I'm thinking .2 C2S now for sure. Only thing I could see changing that is if I found an 06-08 low mile car in the low $40's...but currently most are smoking crack on their .1 inventory prices.