PCC

[QUOTE=sjfehr;10127678]Honestly, speed has nothing to do with it- especially not on the highway where you might just as well be driving an F-350 as a 911 if all you're doing is holding 80-100. If PSM is engaging on the highway, you're doing something HORRIBLY wrong! [QUOTE]


As I previously stated "I understand your position (especially as it relates to PSM being activated on public roads." .

What I don't like is when people express "elitist" views with respect to people's driving habits. I drive fast when conditions allow but respect the safety of others. I'd like to think we are all responsible adults. The original poster passed on a driving experience that praises Porsche engineering. He also learned a lesson regarding pushing his car in certain conditions. I think his post was useful. Some of the others ... not so much

vern1

^^ what are you talking about?? I referenced a technical point that summer tires are not designed for sub 45 degree weather and therefore its not a good idea to use them in the situation as he describe it and I am a know it all?? You in grade 3 or something?

vern1

[quote=PCC;10127759][QUOTE=sjfehr;10127678]Honestly, speed has nothing to do with it- especially not on the highway where you might just as well be driving an F-350 as a 911 if all you're doing is holding 80-100. If PSM is engaging on the highway, you're doing something HORRIBLY wrong! It wasnt clear he got the point (which he subsequently said he did) and some people drive in unsafe conditions with out knowing it (some people think summer tires are just fine unless there is snow on the road). If passing on a little knowledge about this is "elitist" , then so be it.

Pls enlighten me to which Pcar you have and where you are located as I would like to keep a look out for you and your non elitist driving habits

PCC

You stated:

"in the best of times and even if the tires were brand new, not a great idea to be whipping around a corner in 3rd at 6K"

I disagreed saying the cars are made for that and still do. We argee with respect to summer tires in the winter.

I track both my cars. I know their limits. I have an older GT3 and 997.2 S Cab.

My apology for the "know it all" comment (yes, rather juvenile).

sjfehr

3rd at 6k is what, about 90mph? Probably not a great idea to be "whipping around a corner" on a public road like that. Especially on summer tires on a 45 degree day. That's a recipe for putting the car in a situation that not even PSM can save your *** from.

vern1

I said, if you had bothered to read and quote the COMPLETE sentence "Summer rubber is not meant to be out below 7C (45F) in the best of times and even if the tires were brand new, not a great idea to be whipping around a corner in 3rd at 6K."

ie dont drive summer tires old or new in 7C weather the way he described it. Come on man

vern1

Unfortunately, no matter how good PSM is, I think it does lead to some potentially bad habits as some people think it will save them from any stupid driving they do and thats when they find out the hard way.

Spokane5150

Vern...it doesn't matter what the subject is you'll always pounce on anyone that has a different belief than you do. For some sick reason you take delight in belittling others on this forum and I suspect in every walk of life, you do the same. 800 posts in 6-years tells us all that you contribute very little. You're an irritant, sociopath and a disease.

I had hoped you were on a permanant hiatus in some 3rd World Country trying to make yourself feel good about your obvious elitist complex but here you are putting your 2 cents in where it doesn't belong. Instead of just pointing out that summer tires don't work well below 45F you have to try to make the OP look stupid.

Vern, you have graduated to my ignore list. Congratulation!

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zanwar

It probably fired the brake at the outside rear to correct for oversteer.

vern1

Spooky, nice to see that you havent changed your tune in the slightest. I have no idea how you my comments would be interpretted as belittling and comments that others also pointed out (except for the gentleman who miss quoted me). And thanks for mixing up my quotes with sjfehr. I suppose we are both just belittling the OP? What does any of this have to do with my beliefs? I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF SUMMER TIRES



Anyways you jumped in with the sole intention of creating a ruckus with me and I am quite happy to be on your ignore list as I wont have to endure any more of your moronic comments

bye bye

Mumbles

Does being in Sports Mode allow the car to corner more aggressively without correction kicking in ?

vern1

^Yes.

I would give a more detailed explanation but that may be elitist or belittling

stefang

I think next time it snows (if ever) I need to find an empty parking lot and test out how the PSM behaves/feels.

Is there a doughnut setting?

Spokane5150

Good question. I notice that I can still rally the car a bit coming out of turns hard on the throttle. I don't think Porsche makes the dynamic control too intrusive. I've never driven the car with the stability control off. One of my buddies said he did it once and doesn't recommend it.

vern1

^^ I guess he'd have the answer if he hadnt ignored me

The Sport mode allows a little more latitude on slippage before PSM intervention. My understanding is the PSM will reactivate in certain situations even if you turn it off. Its been discussed before so you can search the threads if you need more details