not sure what saved my ass "literally", but....
01-08-2013, 08:54 PM
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Just how many threads can one guy try to ruin ?
If you search for Spokane5150 and key word Ignore, you come up with 10 threads in the 997 forum alone.
If you follow the thread Edgy started praising the forum, you won't find his posts, because he began a homophobic rant, out of the blue, and his comments were deleted, along with those he dragged into confronting him.
What a sad sack.
If you search for Spokane5150 and key word Ignore, you come up with 10 threads in the 997 forum alone.
If you follow the thread Edgy started praising the forum, you won't find his posts, because he began a homophobic rant, out of the blue, and his comments were deleted, along with those he dragged into confronting him.
What a sad sack.
01-09-2013, 08:46 AM
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This would most likey be what happened if it came into play, but I still honestly don't know if it did kick in. Usually when it kicks in, you hear, feel and see it (light on dash). Some more details are that my car has "SPASM" not the standard PASM and was also in sport mode to boot, which to my understanding, gives a lot more play before the system kicks in for a save. The *** slightly kicked out for a second and immediately corrected itself, while I stayed in the throttle. It wasn't like I was drifting and feathering the throttle thru a sharp turn. It was a slight bend in the road, not a corner and the wet spots I previously mentioned were last encountered about a mile back. This location was bone dry and 100% free of traffic. I wanted to make the traffic, note, because I don't play at the expense of others.
01-09-2013, 11:23 AM
#48
Drifting
This would most likey be what happened if it came into play, but I still honestly don't know if it did kick in. Usually when it kicks in, you hear, feel and see it (light on dash). Some more details are that my car has "SPASM" not the standard PASM and was also in sport mode to boot, which to my understanding, gives a lot more play before the system kicks in for a save. The *** slightly kicked out for a second and immediately corrected itself, while I stayed in the throttle. It wasn't like I was drifting and feathering the throttle thru a sharp turn. It was a slight bend in the road, not a corner and the wet spots I previously mentioned were last encountered about a mile back. This location was bone dry and 100% free of traffic. I wanted to make the traffic, note, because I don't play at the expense of others.
Anyways no harm done and you prob only hit a patch of dust or something. Happens to us all. The important thing is you didnt put yourself in serious distress.
My comments on PSM habits was not directed at you (or anyone in particular). Rather just a general comment that with the advent of PSM or any stability control program people sometimes rely on them too much and can put themselves in situations that no stability control can help with. In the past if you knew it wasnt there at least I tended to think before putting the pedal down a little further
Safe driving
01-09-2013, 11:25 AM
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Drifting
Just how many threads can one guy try to ruin ?
If you search for Spokane5150 and key word Ignore, you come up with 10 threads in the 997 forum alone.
If you follow the thread Edgy started praising the forum, you won't find his posts, because he began a homophobic rant, out of the blue, and his comments were deleted, along with those he dragged into confronting him.
What a sad sack.
If you search for Spokane5150 and key word Ignore, you come up with 10 threads in the 997 forum alone.
If you follow the thread Edgy started praising the forum, you won't find his posts, because he began a homophobic rant, out of the blue, and his comments were deleted, along with those he dragged into confronting him.
What a sad sack.
01-09-2013, 11:44 AM
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01-09-2013, 11:49 AM
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but you have probably now earned a spot on Spokanes well used ignore list - if you werent on it already
01-09-2013, 11:54 AM
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He promised that I was going on it a few months back, but he's too much of a lonely drama queen and a loud mouth , to actually miss out on any chance for a confrontation.
Some people lash out at empty chairs...he lashes out at avatars and pixels on a screen.
Some people lash out at empty chairs...he lashes out at avatars and pixels on a screen.
01-09-2013, 01:28 PM
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I'm on Spokie's ignore list. Thankfully. He tends to ruin a lot of threads
01-09-2013, 01:47 PM
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I am not sure the light always comes on immediately. I have felt my car "correct itself" in slippery conditions (like snow the past week) and the light only seems to come on if it intervenes for a noticable period of time. Maybe I am wrong
Anyways no harm done and you prob only hit a patch of dust or something. Happens to us all. The important thing is you didnt put yourself in serious distress.
My comments on PSM habits was not directed at you (or anyone in particular). Rather just a general comment that with the advent of PSM or any stability control program people sometimes rely on them too much and can put themselves in situations that no stability control can help with. In the past if you knew it wasnt there at least I tended to think before putting the pedal down a little further
Safe driving
Anyways no harm done and you prob only hit a patch of dust or something. Happens to us all. The important thing is you didnt put yourself in serious distress.
My comments on PSM habits was not directed at you (or anyone in particular). Rather just a general comment that with the advent of PSM or any stability control program people sometimes rely on them too much and can put themselves in situations that no stability control can help with. In the past if you knew it wasnt there at least I tended to think before putting the pedal down a little further
Safe driving
01-09-2013, 01:59 PM
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Drifting
01-09-2013, 02:02 PM
#56
Drifting
I dont think you quite got his point. Summer rubber is not meant to be out below 7C (45F) in the best of times and even if the tires were brand new, not a great idea to be whipping around a corner in 3rd at 6K. But to each his own and that what the PSM is there for, to try and keep us out of the ditch
01-09-2013, 02:10 PM
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Speaking only for myself, when my PSM has kicked in the last place I was looking at was the dash to see if, or how quickly, the light was on or how quickly it might have flashed. For me, the car adjusts, I gather my wits, and then notice (usually peripherally) that the the PSM is on.
01-09-2013, 02:14 PM
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Drifting
Totally got the point, just had to mention that the rubber was not 5-6 yrs old, but yes it was summer rubber. It really wasn't a "corner" it was a slight bend in the road. It was the combo of the fat of the power band, the "bend" in the road, salt dust and probably a little water on the tires from misc wet spots.
If it was a front engined car, it probably would not have happened.
No, it would have been WORSE, lower rear weight = lower traction availability at the rear, even PSM help would have been more marginal.
We all know that rear engined Porsche's love to swing their asses around (upon LIFT throttle, constant/moderate throttle application and Porsche's are more likely to hold the "line".) , so thank God for the PSM and a Porsche lesson learned for me. I was obviously unaware that I went beyond it's limits, given the circumstances.
If it was a front engined car, it probably would not have happened.
No, it would have been WORSE, lower rear weight = lower traction availability at the rear, even PSM help would have been more marginal.
We all know that rear engined Porsche's love to swing their asses around (upon LIFT throttle, constant/moderate throttle application and Porsche's are more likely to hold the "line".) , so thank God for the PSM and a Porsche lesson learned for me. I was obviously unaware that I went beyond it's limits, given the circumstances.
01-09-2013, 02:25 PM
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Drifting
Summer tires have more surface traction area.
Specialty winter tires are only of help on soft, penetrable, surfaces, feshly fallen, loose, snow, or MUD. Actually, OFTEN, detrimental due to shortage of surface contact area vs "summer" tires.
On an ice rink surface I'll put my nice and quiet, comfortably riding, summer use only, tires, up against ANY specialty winter tires...no studs.
01-09-2013, 02:51 PM
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Drifting
Driving around on summer tires in the winter will build up some heat in them so they'll generally get up to reasonable temps and grip OK even on a cold day, but those first few miles are gonna be sketchy.