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Surprised no one has mentioned Klasse All in One Polish + Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze. I find these two products to be AWESOME long lasting protection to the car's paint. My steps for a full detail (done 2x annually, when no paint correction is needed):
1. Wash car w/ dish soap to get all residual wax off the car.
2. Claybar car w/ detailer's spray + claybar (both Mother's product).
3. Apply 2x coats of Klasse All-in-One Polish
4. Apply 1x coat of Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze (allow to cure overnight)
5. Apply 1x coat of Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze (yes, again! Allow to cure overnight)
6. Apply Carnauba Wax topcoat (as many layers as you like).
Klasse is "old-school" in that it is acrylic vs. water based, and leaves a shine that has high gloss but less depth (vs. carnauba), however, that depth comes back with a vengeance when layered with Carnauba. The one benefit of Klasse is, it lasts FOREVER. It is seriously like adding a coating of clear armor to your paint.
I highly recommend the Klasse twins for anyone who is daily driving their P-car like I am all 4 seasons!
1. Wash car w/ dish soap to get all residual wax off the car.
2. Claybar car w/ detailer's spray + claybar (both Mother's product).
3. Apply 2x coats of Klasse All-in-One Polish
4. Apply 1x coat of Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze (allow to cure overnight)
5. Apply 1x coat of Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze (yes, again! Allow to cure overnight)
6. Apply Carnauba Wax topcoat (as many layers as you like).
Klasse is "old-school" in that it is acrylic vs. water based, and leaves a shine that has high gloss but less depth (vs. carnauba), however, that depth comes back with a vengeance when layered with Carnauba. The one benefit of Klasse is, it lasts FOREVER. It is seriously like adding a coating of clear armor to your paint.
I highly recommend the Klasse twins for anyone who is daily driving their P-car like I am all 4 seasons!
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Do you polish by hand or with a machine?
Surprised no one has mentioned Klasse All in One Polish + Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze. I find these two products to be AWESOME long lasting protection to the car's paint. My steps for a full detail (done 2x annually, when no paint correction is needed):
1. Wash car w/ dish soap to get all residual wax off the car.
2. Claybar car w/ detailer's spray + claybar (both Mother's product).
3. Apply 2x coats of Klasse All-in-One Polish
4. Apply 1x coat of Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze (allow to cure overnight)
5. Apply 1x coat of Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze (yes, again! Allow to cure overnight)
6. Apply Carnauba Wax topcoat (as many layers as you like).
Klasse is "old-school" in that it is acrylic vs. water based, and leaves a shine that has high gloss but less depth (vs. carnauba), however, that depth comes back with a vengeance when layered with Carnauba. The one benefit of Klasse is, it lasts FOREVER. It is seriously like adding a coating of clear armor to your paint.
I highly recommend the Klasse twins for anyone who is daily driving their P-car like I am all 4 seasons!
1. Wash car w/ dish soap to get all residual wax off the car.
2. Claybar car w/ detailer's spray + claybar (both Mother's product).
3. Apply 2x coats of Klasse All-in-One Polish
4. Apply 1x coat of Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze (allow to cure overnight)
5. Apply 1x coat of Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze (yes, again! Allow to cure overnight)
6. Apply Carnauba Wax topcoat (as many layers as you like).
Klasse is "old-school" in that it is acrylic vs. water based, and leaves a shine that has high gloss but less depth (vs. carnauba), however, that depth comes back with a vengeance when layered with Carnauba. The one benefit of Klasse is, it lasts FOREVER. It is seriously like adding a coating of clear armor to your paint.
I highly recommend the Klasse twins for anyone who is daily driving their P-car like I am all 4 seasons!
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I first started using Klasse ~8 years ago, and have progressed further and further up the detailing food chain: initially by hand (you will have the forearms of Popeye when done), by random orbital, by Porter Cable DACP, and most recently by Flex (much preferred).
Irrespective of application method, the product really is very legit, in my experience.
Irrespective of application method, the product really is very legit, in my experience.
#140
Surprised no one has mentioned Klasse All in One Polish + Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze. I find these two products to be AWESOME long lasting protection to the car's paint. My steps for a full detail (done 2x annually, when no paint correction is needed):
1. Wash car w/ dish soap to get all residual wax off the car.
2. Claybar car w/ detailer's spray + claybar (both Mother's product).
3. Apply 2x coats of Klasse All-in-One Polish
4. Apply 1x coat of Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze (allow to cure overnight)
5. Apply 1x coat of Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze (yes, again! Allow to cure overnight)
6. Apply Carnauba Wax topcoat (as many layers as you like).
Klasse is "old-school" in that it is acrylic vs. water based, and leaves a shine that has high gloss but less depth (vs. carnauba), however, that depth comes back with a vengeance when layered with Carnauba. The one benefit of Klasse is, it lasts FOREVER. It is seriously like adding a coating of clear armor to your paint.
I highly recommend the Klasse twins for anyone who is daily driving their P-car like I am all 4 seasons!
1. Wash car w/ dish soap to get all residual wax off the car.
2. Claybar car w/ detailer's spray + claybar (both Mother's product).
3. Apply 2x coats of Klasse All-in-One Polish
4. Apply 1x coat of Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze (allow to cure overnight)
5. Apply 1x coat of Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze (yes, again! Allow to cure overnight)
6. Apply Carnauba Wax topcoat (as many layers as you like).
Klasse is "old-school" in that it is acrylic vs. water based, and leaves a shine that has high gloss but less depth (vs. carnauba), however, that depth comes back with a vengeance when layered with Carnauba. The one benefit of Klasse is, it lasts FOREVER. It is seriously like adding a coating of clear armor to your paint.
I highly recommend the Klasse twins for anyone who is daily driving their P-car like I am all 4 seasons!
I bought a bonnet for my porter cable that I now use to buff out the SG.
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I use the Klasse "twins" although I have found the Glaze to be hard to work with. You do need to let it cure, I found when I just used AIO that if I let it cure overnight I got a much better result when I topped it with a wax.
I bought a bonnet for my porter cable that I now use to buff out the SG.
I bought a bonnet for my porter cable that I now use to buff out the SG.
SG takes some time to get used to applying, but essentially, I follow a "less is more" approach. Apply it as thinly as possible.
My car still looks completely glossy 6 months after a proper AIO + SG application, even w/o wax. The carnauba is only really needed for the added "pop"....
#142
Huh? You let AIO cure overnight? Or do you let SG cure overnight? IMHO, no need for the former (i.e.: AIO), DEFINITELY for the latter (SG). Wipe on, wipe off is a PITA with SG, as it needs time to properly harden* (*it's like "magic shell" for your car).
SG takes some time to get used to applying, but essentially, I follow a "less is more" approach. Apply it as thinly as possible.
My car still looks completely glossy 6 months after a proper AIO + SG application, even w/o wax. The carnauba is only really needed for the added "pop"....
SG takes some time to get used to applying, but essentially, I follow a "less is more" approach. Apply it as thinly as possible.
My car still looks completely glossy 6 months after a proper AIO + SG application, even w/o wax. The carnauba is only really needed for the added "pop"....
I agree on the SG, less is more. With practice I am getting better but using a RO does help. And I agree that the carnuba is for the "pop" my latest application was P21S wax and it looked very nice.
#143
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Surprised no one has mentioned Klasse All in One Polish + Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze. I find these two products to be AWESOME long lasting protection to the car's paint. My steps for a full detail (done 2x annually, when no paint correction is needed):
1. Wash car w/ dish soap to get all residual wax off the car.
2. Claybar car w/ detailer's spray + claybar (both Mother's product).
3. Apply 2x coats of Klasse All-in-One Polish
4. Apply 1x coat of Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze (allow to cure overnight)
5. Apply 1x coat of Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze (yes, again! Allow to cure overnight)
6. Apply Carnauba Wax topcoat (as many layers as you like).
Klasse is "old-school" in that it is acrylic vs. water based, and leaves a shine that has high gloss but less depth (vs. carnauba), however, that depth comes back with a vengeance when layered with Carnauba. The one benefit of Klasse is, it lasts FOREVER. It is seriously like adding a coating of clear armor to your paint.
I highly recommend the Klasse twins for anyone who is daily driving their P-car like I am all 4 seasons!
1. Wash car w/ dish soap to get all residual wax off the car.
2. Claybar car w/ detailer's spray + claybar (both Mother's product).
3. Apply 2x coats of Klasse All-in-One Polish
4. Apply 1x coat of Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze (allow to cure overnight)
5. Apply 1x coat of Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze (yes, again! Allow to cure overnight)
6. Apply Carnauba Wax topcoat (as many layers as you like).
Klasse is "old-school" in that it is acrylic vs. water based, and leaves a shine that has high gloss but less depth (vs. carnauba), however, that depth comes back with a vengeance when layered with Carnauba. The one benefit of Klasse is, it lasts FOREVER. It is seriously like adding a coating of clear armor to your paint.
I highly recommend the Klasse twins for anyone who is daily driving their P-car like I am all 4 seasons!
BTW I use the Menzerna for any paint correction then the Klasse twins
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I also use the Klasse system with my Flex. However dont understand the 2x AIO? My understanding was the AIO is a cleaner/polish/acrylic coating and that the 2nd app will just clean off the 1st app. The SG can be put on or layered a few times. For the SG I use a small spray bottle, spray it on the surface and wipe off. Very easy to use this way with the same effect as curing without the pain to buff off if you let it "cure"
BTW I use the Menzerna for any paint correction then the Klasse twins
BTW I use the Menzerna for any paint correction then the Klasse twins
As an aside, here is a pretty good video on paint correction, featuring a GORGEOUS 1958 speedster. Total car ****.
Note: I'm not affiliated with the shop above; I just really like this guy's attention to detail/detailing.
#147
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I did the Optimum Poli-Seal and Opti-seal treatment today
With the grey you dont get the deep reflections like the dark colors but it still looks nice
With the grey you dont get the deep reflections like the dark colors but it still looks nice
#150
For those who have used both the flex and the griots machine, are the results better with the flex?
I'm not talking about the machine differences or the time to do the job, just the shine when done and ease of removing small paint issues and swirl marks.
I'm not talking about the machine differences or the time to do the job, just the shine when done and ease of removing small paint issues and swirl marks.