C4S vs C2S
10-06-2011, 11:36 PM
#31
how can one person make such a blanket statement? comic gold
anyway, to the OP - please do, go get the C4S if for anything, the stability. I have a lowly C2S and it is SCARY unstable. I mean, it should be on meds it's so unstable.
add in the fact that it is only a 997.1 (you know, that piece of **** Porsche put out to market between the 996 and, our savior, the 997.2, and before direct fuel injection saved the world).
don't ask about PDK... god knows I must have took the cheap *** route (again...read 997.1 purchase vs .2) in getting a 6 speed.
OR - go to the GT3/GT3RS board and get their opinion
anyway, to the OP - please do, go get the C4S if for anything, the stability. I have a lowly C2S and it is SCARY unstable. I mean, it should be on meds it's so unstable.
add in the fact that it is only a 997.1 (you know, that piece of **** Porsche put out to market between the 996 and, our savior, the 997.2, and before direct fuel injection saved the world).
don't ask about PDK... god knows I must have took the cheap *** route (again...read 997.1 purchase vs .2) in getting a 6 speed.
OR - go to the GT3/GT3RS board and get their opinion
10-06-2011, 11:48 PM
#32
Rennlist Member
If you are a pretty good driver and you aren't in rain or snow, the C2S is the better car, but if you have rain or snow a lot the C4S is a great solution. It is really that simple.
10-06-2011, 11:52 PM
#33
Nordschleife Master
lol, glad I was able to provide some comic relief for you. Yes, it's a bit exaggerated. But seriously, if fun to you means sliding the back end, then okay C2S is better but for most average people, the rear end isn't supposed to slide. I have a rwd car as well, I know they are fun but for most people, they don't call that fun.
imo, Porsche does a decent job in making their cars. even if some think the suspension is not great, or could be better (not me), it still handles quite well
having driven AWD (granted, an A4 quattro), I did like how it pulled through corners. I would like to drive an AWD sports car to check it out, I'm not sure it would sell me as an "AWD only" guy. maybe it would. either way, my C2S is totally stable and handles quite well
10-07-2011, 12:57 AM
#35
Nordschleife Master
10-07-2011, 04:45 AM
#37
The notion that you need 4wd to go out in the rain is so completely hilarious it has to be a wind-up. I live in the north of the UK. The weather here is at least as bad as Seattle and worse than everywhere else in the USA. Last night my 2wd GTS had to wade through intermittent standing water 6 inches deep for a good 30 miles. All done at 80mph. Cornering at 50mph. Car felt great. There's a lot of weight sitting over those rear wheels giving mighty traction.
10-07-2011, 10:47 AM
#38
I had a 2008 C2S and put over 30,000 miles on it. I now have a 2011 C4S and I am approaching 7,000 miles. The C4S feels more planted and I love the wide hips. When low on fuel the C2S front end was significantly lighter, almost twitchy compared to the C4S.
I really like both cars. I think I lean a little toward my C4S because of her fat bottom and I think the color combo I have is killer.
I really like both cars. I think I lean a little toward my C4S because of her fat bottom and I think the color combo I have is killer.
10-07-2011, 12:39 PM
#39
Drifting
The notion that you need 4wd to go out in the rain is so completely hilarious it has to be a wind-up. I live in the north of the UK. The weather here is at least as bad as Seattle and worse than everywhere else in the USA. Last night my 2wd GTS had to wade through intermittent standing water 6 inches deep for a good 30 miles. All done at 80mph. Cornering at 50mph. Car felt great. There's a lot of weight sitting over those rear wheels giving mighty traction.
10-07-2011, 01:08 PM
#40
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10-07-2011, 06:21 PM
#41
Nordschleife Master
10-07-2011, 06:46 PM
#42
Easy - either get one of each or the one YOU like. Try to drive both back-to-back and the choice should be obvious.
I've owned a C4S and a C2S. Personally I prefer the C2S in all aspects, including the looks. Not a fan of big booties I guess. Although if I could find a GTS without center lock wheels I'd be tempted. . .
I've owned a C4S and a C2S. Personally I prefer the C2S in all aspects, including the looks. Not a fan of big booties I guess. Although if I could find a GTS without center lock wheels I'd be tempted. . .
10-07-2011, 07:05 PM
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I agree, everyone acts like race car drivers here. If one was to drive both C2S and C4S back to back. 9 out of 10 will pick the C4S. It feels more stable, the C2S feels loose. The C4S feels more stable, planted, that gives you the confidence to go faster. Everyone is regurgitating what they are reading in magazines. The avg driver which is most of us will find the C4S more fun to drive. Most of the people who said C2S probably hasn't driven a C4S, just based their opinion on what they have read. Try driving them back to back at a PDE. You will know what I mean.
10-08-2011, 12:18 AM
#44
I am not saying rear wheel drive isn't fun. I had an e36 M3 and have a MB SLK that I track, both RWD cars. My first introduction to the track was an autocross. I found it more fun drifting through the corners than getting the best times. It's not as easy drifting an AWD car. What I am saying is, the average driver will find the AWD to be more planted and more stable.
10-08-2011, 04:53 PM
#45
Nordschleife Master
Then you are not driving it hard enough. I am not saying rear wheel drive isn't fun. I had an e36 M3 and have a MB SLK that I track, both RWD cars. My first introduction to the track was an autocross. I found it more fun drifting through the corners than getting the best times. It's not as easy drifting an AWD car. What I am saying is, the average driver will find the AWD to be more planted and more stable.
I am not saying rear wheel drive isn't fun. I had an e36 M3 and have a MB SLK that I track, both RWD cars. My first introduction to the track was an autocross. I found it more fun drifting through the corners than getting the best times. It's not as easy drifting an AWD car. What I am saying is, the average driver will find the AWD to be more planted and more stable.that said, I have 10 miles commute (of which several miles are just getting through the city) - and I travel a lot for work - so I do suffer a shortage of driving time)