mattyf

There's a guy at my work that's got a nice looking silver one he's gonna sell. I think he said he needs a truck to build his house, so the RS has to go.

race911

Which are? I think I spent about $500 on the drivetrain in the 3 years I raced RSA #1, and probably half that on the 140K miler that was its replacement in the 5-6K of hard, hard track miles it was subjected to over 6 years off-and-on.

Oh, and the lack of power steering on an RSA is a real negative on track. Yes, that's back-to-back same day fatigue between RSA #2 and the faux 993RS.

mooty

LMAO, ken... you are NOT that old.
you should join TC in that new form of exercise that's he's doing.

Ed Hughes

The A/C isn't great, even when it's working as it should. But, I can assure you, at high speeds a 911 should be stable. The car you drove either didn't have a tail, or something was not right.

SARGEPUG

Older is not better, it's just a different experiance. My 997.2 is a world class performer. However, my 3.2 is an absolute blast to drive!! No power steering, no PSC, no Spasm, no ABS, etc, etc. It just you, your *** and the road! Exhilirating feeling and you really drive those cars. If you can, keep your late model and buy a classic. Best of both worlds!

solomonschris

I purchased a new C2S Cab with PDK and a bunch of other options that ran the window sticker to 122K. I thought I got a good deal since not too many folks around these parts were buying new Porsches in the summer of 09. This car was fast as hell and had a sweet sounding engine when revved. I had previously owned two 3.2 G50 coupes, a 930 G50 cab, and a NB 993 coupe. This car was superior in performance in any way I could measure, and with air bags all over the place, probably safer. But with the 19" turbo rims you couldn't enjoy the fancy sound system over 60mph, and while the PDK is an amazing piece of equipment, it took much of the fun out of driving. And that was the conclusion I reached about the car as a whole...it was a better car but for me not as much fun. I sold it and got another NB993. I was back in love but missed the power. I thought of supercharging because the car was perfect otherwise but ended up lusting after 993tt's. So I sold the car and will be picking my tt up in Santa Barbara on the 20th of Sept. With a fresh engine and a slew of other stuff the RLers recommended. I know that the goal posts keep moving on me. I kid myself that this is it...no more cars, but have you seen "Rufus" on the tt site or "El Guapo" to mention just two. Onward into the fog....Chris

Chaos

Older Turbo would be great ! 91-2 Green one

allegretto

Thanks. Kinda what I expected. As I analyse my thoughts better it occurs that my 997.2 GTS is so automated and safe, it's almost boring unless I go "manual" and flip the paddles to keep it "on boil". Not that I don't like PDK, love it! Was the same with my last (and most beautiful) GT3 in aqua blue.

With the old ones one more or less had to keep "on boil" since they were far too flat unless you did. Plus the sound and feel. That a mechanical monster was at your command, but tread carefully, it can bite...

mclaudio

I can relate to OP sentiments. I've gone back and forth between old and newer. As some have mentioned and actually done, keep a modern car for DD duties - reliable, comfortable, safer, etc. and then get an early one to satisfy that desire for a more pure driving feel. This is what I've done by owning an old race car and old targa style car, and then have a more modern car for DD.

race911

Funny that this exact conversation would be had in the pits (there WAS pre-internet life) of yesteryear. I'll pick a couple of points in time. When I got into these things 30+ years ago it was "have a 356 for fun, but an SC for luxury/power/safety" or say 15 years ago "have an RS wannabe for fun, but a 964/993 for luxury/power/safety". Guess when I'm ready for the scrap heap in my mid-60s 15 years from now the kids born in 1990 hanging out here will be waxing nostalgic on a 997 PDK for the raw feel...............

mrsullivan

For what it's worth, I think that the grass is always greener on the other side. The ideal is to own both, a really hot new sports car and a really hot older sports car. For those like me that cannot afford to have both, its a tough trade-off. I think that this point is what keeps me replenishing every year or two. I love the 993s that I have owned, including my current one in a fun color. But I miss my RS4 often. That was a really great car. Sure, not really apples to oranges exactly, but I would compare it to a 997 C4S. A little more room in the back and a couple extra doors, but not all that different. To have that car and the perfect 993 would be a great combo.

And by the way, Sloan has great cars, but his pristine 993s are not 55-65, they tend to be more....

SARGEPUG

The fact that you have a PDK, makes it even more of a great experiance if you go old skool. No "automatics" in the era!
You actually do not have to keep the classic car "on boil". My Targa never feels flat, even before I did the performance mods. You really never get bored, it requires a lot of driver input, which always keeps you entertained. I also recommend you go Targa or a vert. The open air experiance is also great in the old rides. Oh and I forgot to mention the smell. The classis cars have that certain "aroma"!

SARGEPUG

Agree w/ Ed, a classic functioning AC is garbage, compared to todays standards. If you want a real chill from a classic, you need to drop an easy $5k in upgrades, made specifically to bring classics to today's standards. As far as high speed stability, I haven't had my car maxed out, but @ 120 she is a rock. You must have driven an "unstable" car.

Mark Harris

I'm sure you have heard my story before. Sold my 993. Bought a 997. Missed everything that makes an air cooled Porsche so special. The boys and girls over on the 993 board told me this would happen and they were right.

Bought a 88' Targa and that instant smile was back on my face.

Love the 997 when it is 100 degrees out and I have to make the 45 minute drive to the airport.

Temp is 75 here now so it's the Targa everyday. Porsche Palooza is 400 miles each way........I'm taking the Targa.

SOS

Great post and good point! I'm already starting to hear people talking about the 996 as "visceral!"