NEW guy with Blown up 2006 S
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It shouldn't be. As long as you consider the big picture. If you can find a story even remotely resembling this one among the tens of thousands of 997 testimonials posted here I'd like to read it.
Not sure what has me more bewildered at this point. The gradual disintegration of this car or the fact that the current owner accepted another loaner car instead of the buy-back check that was offered.
Not sure what has me more bewildered at this point. The gradual disintegration of this car or the fact that the current owner accepted another loaner car instead of the buy-back check that was offered.
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...ability-2.html
Looks like some people have had engine failures due to IMS related symptoms. I'm not sure how exaggerated it is though. This is a concern for me though and is nudging me in the direction of a 993, not to imply the 993 is indestructible but it does have a reputation for being rock solid.
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https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...in-a-my06.html
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...ability-2.html
Looks like some people have had engine failures due to IMS related symptoms. I'm not sure how exaggerated it is though. This is a concern for me though and is nudging me in the direction of a 993, not to imply the 993 is indestructible but it does have a reputation for being rock solid.
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...ability-2.html
Looks like some people have had engine failures due to IMS related symptoms. I'm not sure how exaggerated it is though. This is a concern for me though and is nudging me in the direction of a 993, not to imply the 993 is indestructible but it does have a reputation for being rock solid.
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Peace of mind means a lot to me. Here's another story of an IMS failure. The poster says there was another 997 getting a new engine at the same time his was. One failed engine in the same shop is concerning, but two of the same engines being replaced in the same shop is kinda scary.
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...failure-2.html
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...failure-2.html
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https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...in-a-my06.html
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...ability-2.html
Looks like some people have had engine failures due to IMS related symptoms. I'm not sure how exaggerated it is though. This is a concern for me though and is nudging me in the direction of a 993, not to imply the 993 is indestructible but it does have a reputation for being rock solid.
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...ability-2.html
Looks like some people have had engine failures due to IMS related symptoms. I'm not sure how exaggerated it is though. This is a concern for me though and is nudging me in the direction of a 993, not to imply the 993 is indestructible but it does have a reputation for being rock solid.
The automotive news cycle is no different than other news cycles. The bad stuff gets all the headlines and discussions. Guess how many responses this thread would get: "Just drove 40,000 miles without incidence. Discussion?"
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Those are rare too and shouldn't be an issue if you get a 2006 or later. For what it's worth to you, I just traded a 2006 C4S that I put 40,000 miles on as a daily driver. Most reliable car I've ever owned. I got a new battery (goodwill from dealership), changed oil on schedule and bought tires and wiper blades. That's about it.
The automotive news cycle is no different than other news cycles. The bad stuff gets all the headlines and discussions. Guess how many responses this thread would get: "Just drove 40,000 miles without incidence. Discussion?"
The automotive news cycle is no different than other news cycles. The bad stuff gets all the headlines and discussions. Guess how many responses this thread would get: "Just drove 40,000 miles without incidence. Discussion?"
does anyone have hard numbers/stats on the IMS or other engine replacements? i.e. is it affecting 1% of cars, 5%, etc?
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WELL, i just got back fr there.. I woke up this morning, took off work just to go up there and inspect this deal for myself.
and just as I thought, this was completely human error. The tech left the bolts untorqued on the driver side axle. they backed out and when the last one let go, that was the boom.
The engine thing is a iffy deal to me. I think the car had oil consumption, and there was a faulty oil sender. I think the engine got ran low on oil, and that is what caused the failure.
I dont think this car itself is bad.. You guys dont know me, but i am not just the blind do as I am told kind of guy. If I truly thought this car was a pile of crap, i would have taken the check and ran. I think a bad series of events occured.
I have a AWESOME looking 2006 s, that drives and handles so ubelievable that I fell in love with it. I own and have owned several cars including
Clk500
2 H2s
2007 corvette (still own)
1999 cobra
2003 cobra
STS-V
and several trucks..
this is all in the last few years.. I dont get attached to easily. I am hoping this ordeal is over.
I will say, if your reading this, Dont buy one of these cars without a CPO, period. you never know whats going to happen the next day.
and just as I thought, this was completely human error. The tech left the bolts untorqued on the driver side axle. they backed out and when the last one let go, that was the boom.
The engine thing is a iffy deal to me. I think the car had oil consumption, and there was a faulty oil sender. I think the engine got ran low on oil, and that is what caused the failure.
I dont think this car itself is bad.. You guys dont know me, but i am not just the blind do as I am told kind of guy. If I truly thought this car was a pile of crap, i would have taken the check and ran. I think a bad series of events occured.
I have a AWESOME looking 2006 s, that drives and handles so ubelievable that I fell in love with it. I own and have owned several cars including
Clk500
2 H2s
2007 corvette (still own)
1999 cobra
2003 cobra
STS-V
and several trucks..
this is all in the last few years.. I dont get attached to easily. I am hoping this ordeal is over.
I will say, if your reading this, Dont buy one of these cars without a CPO, period. you never know whats going to happen the next day.
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I will also say this. I still would do buisness with Parktown. Alot of dealerships would have left me out in the cold, these guys have doen everything they could. I am even driving a 911 as a loaner now. If i was being handled poorly, i would let the world no.
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OK - back to your original question about break in. I would consider draining the oil and refilling with dino oil. Run it 250 miles and change the oil (dino again). Run another 1000 miles and change the oil, using synthetic. You will get lots of metal particles in the first 1250 miles as everything seats. THis was recommended by someone who rebuilds engines frequently. We did it with a BMW 1 series purchased new. Amazing how much metal gets worn off early in an engine's life.
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Did you take a look at the work they did? check out the underside of the car? that half-shaft swinging around can do some serious damage. it'd be nice to know that the underside of car was re-coated if it was hit or anything.
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OK - back to your original question about break in. I would consider draining the oil and refilling with dino oil. Run it 250 miles and change the oil (dino again). Run another 1000 miles and change the oil, using synthetic. You will get lots of metal particles in the first 1250 miles as everything seats. THis was recommended by someone who rebuilds engines frequently. We did it with a BMW 1 series purchased new. Amazing how much metal gets worn off early in an engine's life.
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I'm with you on that one. This vehicle certainly has some issues now, I would run like a scalded dog. If that $$ is still on the table as an option, I'd take it!
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an IMS failure means that the metal bearings are breaking down/shattering and there's nowhere for all that shredded metal to go except into your engine. bottom line is, despite the limited ways an impending failure can possibly be diagnosed, most often the way you (suddenly) realize you have an IMS issue is when you hear metal clanking in the engine. and by then it's bye bye engine.
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I'm not a luddite but I do think not having an actual dipstick on these cars was a big error on Porsche's part.