pissedpuppy

price comparison DW v Super Sport?

Galvano

I was looking at the list of installers in my area and it looks like they are low end retail chain shops. When you guys order from tirerack do you use their installers?

pissedpuppy

GREAT question - last time I did this, installer totally jacked up one of my rims

found out much later during oil change...

utkinpol

i use NTB for street tires and my porsche mechanic for track tires.

alexb76

Thanks, good info, but that is a very one-dimensional way of looking at tires!

As I'd be riding on my tires 90% of the time on the street, I rather have it do multiple things right, while capable on the track. In the past I've had terrible exerpeince with Kumho and Hankook and I would probably never try them again.

I love the final quote :
It all comes down to value for money, and I think Conitnental DW is pretty much can't be beat. Super Sports are probably the BEST tires you can buy, and the rest are all in between. For instance, for me, rain traction is huge as I live in Vancouver so I will be taking that into account in my next purchase.

Mike in CA

I recently bought a set of tires from TireRack to put on my S4 Avant prior to it's sale. The list of TR approved installers ranged from a generic "low end" shop like you describe to a guy who basically works out of his home and charges top dollar but also has an immaculate shop and absolutely top end equipment. I went with the cheaper generic shop because I was trying to save a few $$ on a car I was selling anyway. When I saw the generic shop and their equipment, I almost drove away, but gritted my teeth and let them do the work. Guy was very nice and it turned out fine, but I wouldn't go back. Bottom line, I don't know how carefully TR investigates their recommended shops but I would pick the best installer in the area, regardless of price or TR approval, to mount tires on my Porsche wheels.

TerpsRED

You can always negotiate an install rate with a local shop that you trust and have TR or other online retailers deliver to that location directly. Saves you the hassle of transporting the new rubber for install.

utkinpol

i have contis DWS on my lexus, they are good all-seasons. they are not even remotely close to level of grip on dunlop star specs. i have no idea what DW contis are.
my one-dimensional way is to have maximum dry grip with as little as possible hydroplaning and acceptable wet grip. and when you start looking at what is actually available in certain wheels sizes it really come down to not that many choices.
from my point of view I see only 3 good candidates for street: PSS (but they have no good sizes yet), RE11 potenzas and dunlop star specs.
still it is educational to read about different options and choices people do.

sjfehr

Is there any other metric that matters?

I hadn't heard about Conti DW when I posted that thread, I should probably update...

Larry Cable

The Super Sports are the way to go especially with the new Michelin warranty, try them for 30 days, if you dont like them give them back (conditions apply) 30k/15k warranty (for staggered Porsche applications like the 911).

They are about as fast as the MPSC+ with better wet performace, better heat mgmt, better contact patch and longer wear ...

I have a set sitting in the garage waiting to go on the GT3.

winkingchef

Add one more to the mix - Bridgestone RE-11's (XL weight rating).
Great tire.
Great grip.
Super Quiet.
Look great (nice tread pattern)

A bit heavier than some choices though. (not enough for me to notice)

int90

I also have the DWS, on my BMW xi sedan. I think they are pretty darn good; gave me enough confidence to pass
everyone during a light snow storm on the way home after a ski trip.
They are in a different category than Star Spec; the "S" in DWS is for snow.

slicky rick

all i can say is if the super sports exceed the pilot sport 2's them im sure they are going to be awesome tires... my ps2's should be worn in 2 years because after a year and 12k kms they still look new.