Cabriolet Snow Day
12-23-2010, 12:10 PM
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I agree with you. Although it looks like a lot of fun and I used to drive my 914 through the snow back when I was younger and only had one car, it's the salt that's my biggest concern so my P cars will try to avoid snow altogether.
12-23-2010, 03:38 PM
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-Jay
12-23-2010, 07:53 PM
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12-23-2010, 08:21 PM
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For your guys with winter tires - how do these tires work in just cold weather not snow? Does the car handle as well as it does in the summer with summer tires?
12-23-2010, 11:19 PM
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12-23-2010, 11:32 PM
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For great cold weather performance & awesome warm weather performance Bridgestone RE960AS M+S are the best in my opinion, & do very well in light snow. I AutoX'd my 960AS's last summer and they rocked. For more than 2 inches of snow & ice a dedicated snow tire is the only safe solution, but they offer no perfomance on dry pavement.
12-24-2010, 02:05 AM
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I can't say it handles as well as with summer tires, but for normal driving it still handles far better than 98% of other cars. No good for the track, but I still have fun on the highway ramps.
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12-24-2010, 02:16 AM
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https://www.scda1.com/events/detail_by_id/113348119
Check out that first photo...
Check out that first photo...
Seem to even work fine in not-so-cold. I'd guess it was almost 65 when I drove the car back out to the shop Monday. While it's not going to "handle" as well (205 front and 235 rear tires will compromise that in and of itself), it tracks true at sane highway speeds. I can't really say the last time I drove the C4S to even 75% of its capability on a public road anyway. But I'm just using them for back-and-forth to the snow. After Saturday, either the 18s or 19s will go back on until I head up skiing again in a couple of weeks.
12-26-2010, 07:10 PM
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With the Porsches ambient air temperatures greatly influence summer tire performance. Once temps are below 40ºF you need to be on a tire designed for colder weather. Many snow tires today are formulated with oils that work well in colder temperatures.
No Porsche will ever "handle" as well as a summer tire equipped Porsche on the dry warm pavement of summer. To improve your chances get winter snow tires and then practice, practice, practice.
12-26-2010, 07:58 PM
#42
Just got back to NYC from Stowe, VT. Snow in Stowe; drove through blizzard to get home. No problems.
Car: 2010 C4S w/ 18" Michelin Pilot Alpin 2 tires.
In Stowe, I made it up an unsanded driveway that defeated serveral two wheel drive cars.
Driving south from VT, the biggest problem was the ice tended to clog the front wipers which then smeared. The rear wiper worked perfectly. The front defroster is powerful -- maybe too much so for comfort. The heated steering wheel and seat were wonderful.
Car: 2010 C4S w/ 18" Michelin Pilot Alpin 2 tires.
In Stowe, I made it up an unsanded driveway that defeated serveral two wheel drive cars.
Driving south from VT, the biggest problem was the ice tended to clog the front wipers which then smeared. The rear wiper worked perfectly. The front defroster is powerful -- maybe too much so for comfort. The heated steering wheel and seat were wonderful.
12-26-2010, 10:15 PM
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Keep in mind that a true snow tire is designed primarily to perform optimally in snow--packed snow. It is worthless on ice. It loses much of its snow capability on clear pavement when it wears. In the ideal world you would run on some tire during the cold season but be able to switch to pure snows when the snow falls. When I go skiing many miles away I take my VW Vanagon and carry 4 Michelin Alpins in the back along with a floor jack. When I get to where conditions dictate snow tires I pull over and do a wheel swap. As soon as conditions permit again I get them off to preserve them.
With the Porsches ambient air temperatures greatly influence summer tire performance. Once temps are below 40ºF you need to be on a tire designed for colder weather. Many snow tires today are formulated with oils that work well in colder temperatures.
No Porsche will ever "handle" as well as a summer tire equipped Porsche on the dry warm pavement of summer. To improve your chances get winter snow tires and then practice, practice, practice.
With the Porsches ambient air temperatures greatly influence summer tire performance. Once temps are below 40ºF you need to be on a tire designed for colder weather. Many snow tires today are formulated with oils that work well in colder temperatures.
No Porsche will ever "handle" as well as a summer tire equipped Porsche on the dry warm pavement of summer. To improve your chances get winter snow tires and then practice, practice, practice.
12-27-2010, 11:35 AM
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Keep in mind that a true snow tire is designed primarily to perform optimally in snow--packed snow. It is worthless on ice. It loses much of its snow capability on clear pavement when it wears. In the ideal world you would run on some tire during the cold season but be able to switch to pure snows when the snow falls. When I go skiing many miles away I take my VW Vanagon and carry 4 Michelin Alpins in the back along with a floor jack. When I get to where conditions dictate snow tires I pull over and do a wheel swap. As soon as conditions permit again I get them off to preserve them.
With the Porsches ambient air temperatures greatly influence summer tire performance. Once temps are below 40ºF you need to be on a tire designed for colder weather. Many snow tires today are formulated with oils that work well in colder temperatures.
No Porsche will ever "handle" as well as a summer tire equipped Porsche on the dry warm pavement of summer. To improve your chances get winter snow tires and then practice, practice, practice.
With the Porsches ambient air temperatures greatly influence summer tire performance. Once temps are below 40ºF you need to be on a tire designed for colder weather. Many snow tires today are formulated with oils that work well in colder temperatures.
No Porsche will ever "handle" as well as a summer tire equipped Porsche on the dry warm pavement of summer. To improve your chances get winter snow tires and then practice, practice, practice.
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